Responses inline.

Thanks,
Neel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip-implementors-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of venkatesh chandran
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding SESSION-TIMER
> 
> Hello *,
> Thanks for the information.
> 
> I have some more queries,
> 1)When INVITE send from UAC with the session-expires value less than the
> Min-SE configured in the proxy, the proxy will reject the INVITE with 422
> response and include the Min-SE header.After that UAC will send a new
> INVITE
> with session-expires and Min-SE returned in the 422 response.
> Now when RE-INVITE send with session-expires less than Min-SE then what
> will
> be the behaivour of the proxy?Again 422 will be send by proxy?
> 

Yes, the situation you describe can happen, if there are multiple proxies
and each of them have a progressively increasing Session-Expires and Min-SE.
In this scenario, it is possible that the 422's can be generated till it the
value of Session-Expires and Min-SE are acceptable to all the intermediate
proxies.

> 2)what is the real use behind the 422 response?
> when INVITE is received with session-expires less than the min-se
> configured
> in proxy then the proxy can modify the session-expires to the min-se
> configured value and forward the INVITE to terminating side and in the 200
> OK response the UAC will be indicated with the new session-expires and if
> parameter refresher=uac, then uac can refresh the session considering the
> new session-expires.Whether this is possible?
> If this is applicable a INVITE may not rejected.

A Proxy can not modify the SIP headers.  It can only add headers.  So, what
you describe is an optimization, but it is violation of the RFC 3261.

> 
> Pls give your points.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Venkatesh
> 
> 
> On 4/20/07, Manjunath Warad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Please see inline...
> >
> >
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> >    Of venkatesh chandran
> >    Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:53 PM
> >    To: [email protected]
> >    Subject: [Sip-implementors] Regarding SESSION-TIMER
> >
> >    Hello All,
> >    I have the following queries regarding the SESSION-TIMER handling.
> >
> >    -When UAC and UAS are not supporting the SESSION-TIMER,then
> >    what will be the behaviour of call-stateful proxy?
> >    -Will call-stateful proxy still sends the SESSION-TIMER
> >    header in the INVITE that is forwarded to the terminating
> >    side with the value configured locally and handles the
> >    session-timer?
> >    -After SESSION-TIMER has expired the session and dialog
> >    details will be deleted in call-stateful proxy and BYE will
> >    not be triggered to UAC and UAS.Now how the UA's are
> >    informed about the release of the call?
> >
> > Session Timers in proxies are triggered and regulated (in most cases)
> from
> > UA. I mean to say, if UA's support then only proxy session timer will be
> > activated.
> >
> >    Kind Regards,
> >    Venkatesh
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