Hello Neel,
For the query2(what is the real use behind the 422 response?) as you
specified i proposed an optimisation.
But it is not violated RFC 4028.In the section-8.1, it is specified that
proxy can modify the session-expires header.

Pls provide suggesstions whether the optimisation is possible?

Best Regards,
Venkatesh



On 4/23/07, Bala Neelakantan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Responses inline.
>
> Thanks,
> Neel
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip-implementors-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of venkatesh chandran
> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:56 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding SESSION-TIMER
> >
> > Hello *,
> > Thanks for the information.
> >
> > I have some more queries,
> > 1)When INVITE send from UAC with the session-expires value less than the
> > Min-SE configured in the proxy, the proxy will reject the INVITE with
> 422
> > response and include the Min-SE header.After that UAC will send a new
> > INVITE
> > with session-expires and Min-SE returned in the 422 response.
> > Now when RE-INVITE send with session-expires less than Min-SE then what
> > will
> > be the behaivour of the proxy?Again 422 will be send by proxy?
> >
>
> Yes, the situation you describe can happen, if there are multiple proxies
> and each of them have a progressively increasing Session-Expires and
> Min-SE.
> In this scenario, it is possible that the 422's can be generated till it
> the
> value of Session-Expires and Min-SE are acceptable to all the intermediate
> proxies.
>
> > 2)what is the real use behind the 422 response?
> > when INVITE is received with session-expires less than the min-se
> > configured
> > in proxy then the proxy can modify the session-expires to the min-se
> > configured value and forward the INVITE to terminating side and in the
> 200
> > OK response the UAC will be indicated with the new session-expires and
> if
> > parameter refresher=uac, then uac can refresh the session considering
> the
> > new session-expires.Whether this is possible?
> > If this is applicable a INVITE may not rejected.
>
> A Proxy can not modify the SIP headers.  It can only add headers.  So,
> what
> you describe is an optimization, but it is violation of the RFC 3261.
>
> >
> > Pls give your points.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Venkatesh
> >
> >
> > On 4/20/07, Manjunath Warad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please see inline...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >    -----Original Message-----
> > >    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >    [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > >    Of venkatesh chandran
> > >    Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:53 PM
> > >    To: [email protected]
> > >    Subject: [Sip-implementors] Regarding SESSION-TIMER
> > >
> > >    Hello All,
> > >    I have the following queries regarding the SESSION-TIMER handling.
> > >
> > >    -When UAC and UAS are not supporting the SESSION-TIMER,then
> > >    what will be the behaviour of call-stateful proxy?
> > >    -Will call-stateful proxy still sends the SESSION-TIMER
> > >    header in the INVITE that is forwarded to the terminating
> > >    side with the value configured locally and handles the
> > >    session-timer?
> > >    -After SESSION-TIMER has expired the session and dialog
> > >    details will be deleted in call-stateful proxy and BYE will
> > >    not be triggered to UAC and UAS.Now how the UA's are
> > >    informed about the release of the call?
> > >
> > > Session Timers in proxies are triggered and regulated (in most cases)
> > from
> > > UA. I mean to say, if UA's support then only proxy session timer will
> be
> > > activated.
> > >
> > >    Kind Regards,
> > >    Venkatesh
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