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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vikram Chhibber
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:49 PM
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> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] page-mode instant-messaging question
>
> Dale, the problem here is that the intention of establish INVITE
> dialog is to send SIP MESSAGE only and there is no media involved. In
> this case, there is no standard to define media-description in the
> offer sdp for this purpose.
> MSRP is encouraged for session-mode message exchanges but I think it
> is a heavy and complex protocol for exchanges few light-weighted
> messages.
> Also, sending page-mode SIP MESSAGE have performance impact on network.

You said "for a few messages".  How do you know the number that will be 
exchanged a priori?  If it's only a few, it would arguably have no worse 
performance sending the Message requests by themselves than sending an 
Invite/1xx/200/Ack+Message/200+Bye/200.  Many networks have record-routing 
proxies (or more).  For some networks a few MESSAGE requests would be less 
overhead than that Invite dialog, for some not.  For a lot of Message requests 
it would probably be better, but then that really is the use case for MSRP. 
[Not that I disagree with you that MSRP is heavy (it's a signaling protocol 
unto itself)]

-hadriel

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