Hi All,

First of all, I would like to extend my best new year 2009 wishes to you
all.

There has been lots of very interesting discussion going on in this
topic.  Thanks to all of you.

To solve the issue with minimal effort and resource, I agree with Paul
group. From the standard perspective, I agree with Michael group (lets
not start a war :-) ) .  
My take on this is following the standard is a good idea, at least for
uniformity.  As standard can be changed, change for good, why not choose
the best method to address the issue and make it standard in next
release of the standard if not already addressed in existing standard.
I guess through discussion, one like this, we could suggest
standarization body to address the issue and tell them the best possible
solution ( Many man, many mind?).  I'm not saying there are no standard
alread. I mean they can be refined  if possible.


Thanks and regards
Nabam Serbang




-----Original Message-----
From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
[mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of
Scott Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:47 PM
To: Paul Kyzivat
Cc: Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] How to determine where to send RTPpacket
in multi-proxy SIP network


On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 11:02 -0500, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

> What Scott says seems reasonable. In his case, if the feature is 
> turned off it really is a proxy. If the option is turned on, and SDP 
> is updated, then the best you can say is that it is a proxy with 
> non-compliant behavior.

... and I'm tarnishing my reputation as a Purist by releasing it :-)

But the Real World is like that... the feature is needed, even if it
doesn't fit into the nice categories.

Incidentally, using that NAT traversal feature unavoidably creates
problems for some things like redundant proxies that would theoretically
be possible without NATs, but our experience so far has been that:

      * Most deployments have to deal with NATs somewhere.  We chose to
        do as much compensation for this as we could by modifying SDP in
        the "proxy" rather than a full B2BUA (the distinction being that
        there is not a new set of dialog identifiers - both sides are
        using the same call-id and tags).

      * In interop testing (some time ago - this may be improving),
        we've found that many phones don't do the right thing with an
        SRV name in a Route, so at present the Record-Route inserted by
        the proxy is always an IP address, which makes the theoretical
        redundancy for onging calls moot anyway.

There are similar annoying issues with registrations, etc that have had
lots of discussion...


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