erol turac wrote:
> Hello All,
>  
> thank you for valuable responses.
>  
> According to Paul, Proxies MUST NOT modify SDP in INVITE, but SBC CAN do 
> it, It depends on implementation.
>  
> So, in SBC case with NAT traversal feature,  if 2 c= lines exist in SDP, 
> 1 at session level and 1 at media level, what is the correct behaviour 
> for SDP handling?
>  
> igonore c line at session level or ignore c line at media level before 
> sending 200 OK to ingress side?
>  
> RFC 4566 says that media level c line has presedence over session level 
> c line.

It seems you have already answered your own question.

Think of the c= at session level as a *default* for a missing c= at the 
media level.

        Paul

> Regards,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Serbang, Nabam (Nabam) 
> <nserb...@avaya.com <mailto:nserb...@avaya.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi All,
> 
>     First of all, I would like to extend my best new year 2009 wishes to you
>     all.
> 
>     There has been lots of very interesting discussion going on in this
>     topic.  Thanks to all of you.
> 
>     To solve the issue with minimal effort and resource, I agree with Paul
>     group. From the standard perspective, I agree with Michael group (lets
>     not start a war :-) ) .
>     My take on this is following the standard is a good idea, at least for
>     uniformity.  As standard can be changed, change for good, why not choose
>     the best method to address the issue and make it standard in next
>     release of the standard if not already addressed in existing standard.
>     I guess through discussion, one like this, we could suggest
>     standarization body to address the issue and tell them the best possible
>     solution ( Many man, many mind?).  I'm not saying there are no standard
>     alread. I mean they can be refined  if possible.
> 
> 
>     Thanks and regards
>     Nabam Serbang
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>     <mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
>     [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>     <mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu>] On Behalf Of
>     Scott Lawrence
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:47 PM
>     To: Paul Kyzivat
>     Cc: Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>     <mailto:Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
>     Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] How to determine where to send RTPpacket
>     in multi-proxy SIP network
> 
> 
>     On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 11:02 -0500, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> 
>      > What Scott says seems reasonable. In his case, if the feature is
>      > turned off it really is a proxy. If the option is turned on, and SDP
>      > is updated, then the best you can say is that it is a proxy with
>      > non-compliant behavior.
> 
>     ... and I'm tarnishing my reputation as a Purist by releasing it :-)
> 
>     But the Real World is like that... the feature is needed, even if it
>     doesn't fit into the nice categories.
> 
>     Incidentally, using that NAT traversal feature unavoidably creates
>     problems for some things like redundant proxies that would theoretically
>     be possible without NATs, but our experience so far has been that:
> 
>          * Most deployments have to deal with NATs somewhere.  We chose to
>            do as much compensation for this as we could by modifying SDP in
>            the "proxy" rather than a full B2BUA (the distinction being that
>            there is not a new set of dialog identifiers - both sides are
>            using the same call-id and tags).
> 
>          * In interop testing (some time ago - this may be improving),
>            we've found that many phones don't do the right thing with an
>            SRV name in a Route, so at present the Record-Route inserted by
>            the proxy is always an IP address, which makes the theoretical
>            redundancy for onging calls moot anyway.
> 
>     There are similar annoying issues with registrations, etc that have had
>     lots of discussion...
> 
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