Ok, that's fine with me. It's just a glitch in 3261 then. I'd rather we
stick with the Warn-Codes approach.

Did you assign a purpose for 7XX-series warn-codes yet? I'm wondering
what
range should be used for this purpose.

James, I didn't see your codes on IANA's web site. What values are you
using?
I don't want to overlap.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: James M. Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 21:44
> To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Alan Hawrylyshen; Kyzivat 
> Paul; Mahy Rohan
> Cc: IETF SIP List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-05: 480 vs. 418
> 
> At 10:54 AM 7/30/2007, Francois Audet wrote:
> >RFC 3261, p. 181:
> >
> >         "The first digit  of warning codes beginning with "3" 
> >indicates warnings
> >         specific to SIP."
> >
> >Then it explains within the 3XX space, how they are used.
> 
> btw -- for location-conveyance-07, I created 15 new Warning codes (#s
> 701 through 712, then 720, 721, and 722).  All this at the 
> suggestion of Henning (who knows something about 3261 text...  ;-)
> 
> btw II - I have since replaced the Warning header indication 
> with a new Geolocation-Error header, but this was so I could 
> stuff more into the new header than the Warning header would allow.
> 
> In all this, I did not get one person claiming Warning codes 
> were limited to 3XX.  Henning merely said the "first batch of 
> codes were in the 300s, and that there was nothing limiting a 
> new ID from defining new codes in any other number range"...
> 
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James M. Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 18:25
> > > To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Alan Hawrylyshen; Kyzivat Paul; 
> > > Mahy Rohan
> > > Cc: IETF SIP List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-05: 480 vs. 418
> > >
> > > A 399 Miscellaneous?  That doesn't make sense...
> > >
> > > Warning codes are not limited to 3XX, so if a new Warning code is 
> > > what Rohan wants to convey more information in the 
> response (which I 
> > > believe should be done one way or another)
> > > - it can be almost any value other than 300-379 or 399 IMO.
> > >
> > > At 10:32 AM 7/27/2007, Francois Audet wrote:
> > > >On the Warning header...
> > > >
> > > >Values 300-379 are reserved for SDP-related stuff.
> > > >
> > > >Values 380-389 are unassiged (but there is no text on it).
> > > >
> > > >Values 390-398 are unassigned (but don't fall into the 
> SDP related 
> > > >stuff.
> > > >
> > > >399 means Miscellaneous and the text can be provided to the user.
> > > >It further says that Automata MUST NOT take action based on this.
> > > >
> > > >Rohan, are you advocating using 399, or defining a new code from 
> > > >the
> > > >390-398 space?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alan Hawrylyshen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > > > Alan Hawrylyshen
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 08:27
> > > > > To: Kyzivat Paul; Mahy Rohan
> > > > > Cc: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); IETF SIP List; 
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-05: 480 vs. 418
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 27-Jul-2007, at 10:06 , Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I understand that if the user entered a sips URI then it
> > > > > should be the
> > > > > > user that must decide to downgrade. But if the user didn't 
> > > > > > know whether to use sip or sips in the first place, 
> and the UA
> > > > > decides to
> > > > > > try sips first then I see no problem in the UA 
> having a policy 
> > > > > > that causes it to downgrade.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was under the impression (based on meeting 
> discussion) that :
> > > > > 1 - the downgrade was undesirable because it reveals
> > > > > (possibly) information about the targeted party in the clear, 
> > > > > and;
> > > > > 2 - The 480 with a Warning header was an option to provide
> > > > > automata- friendly indication of the failure reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan Hawrylyshen
> > > > >
> > > > > a l a n a t p o l y p h a s e d o t c a
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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