I do not have a real preference, but provided the reason for using 480 vs. 418 
is to minimize naïve downgrading from SIPS to SIP, I do not see how option 2, 
resulting in:

480 
Warning: 390 isi.edu "Please use a SIP URI" 

helps matters.

Cheers,
Charles

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: Paul Kyzivat (pkyzivat)
> Cc: IETF SIP List
> Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-05: 480 vs. 418
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:47
> > To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> > Cc: IETF SIP List
> > Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-05: 480 vs. 418
> >
> > I don't know what you mean about Option 1 being opaque to 
> > automata. It seems to me it provides comparable info to 
> > Option 2, giving that the UAC knows what it used in the request.
> 
> It means an Automata can not "upgrade" or "downgrade" 
> automatically with
> OPTION 1, as the indication is not a "hard" indication. It is 
> a Warning
> text
> that is not standardized, and will vary by language, 
> operators, region,
> etc.
> 
> Best it can do is "record" the Warning text. That can be done
> automatically
> of course.
> 
> 
> 
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