-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Boulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:55 PM
To: Bram Verburg; Eric Burger
Cc: sip
Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO

The fact that SIP-T says that SIP headers take
precedence over the
ISUP/Q.931 means you can't send the INVITE and the IAM
over separate channels (for example a TCP or Sigtran
tunnel for ISUP) without opening a big can of worms. How
do you synchronize those messages at the receiving end;
you'd need both the INVITE and the tunneled IAM before
you can send something out on the PSTN side.

[Chris Boulton] I am struggling to see what the
difference is between passing SIP-T using a potentially
un-reliable INFO and using a reliable channel.  You
synchronize the messages in the same way you synchronize
receiving the INFO. 

// Peili: using INFO to rarelly transfer some
un-mappable mid-dialog messages is just a small part of
SIP-T.
// SIP-T talks about mapping between ISUP-SIP, and
possibly try to minimize information lost by tunneling
the message.

 How do you even make sure
those two channels reach the same destination after
passing through proxies, NATs, SBCs, load balancers,
etc.?

[Chris Boulton] These are all issues that are (and will
be) considered in the MediaCtrl work in drafts like
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boulton-sip-control-fra
mework-05 (*note
- new WG version to be submitted this week).  It is
already understood that the solution MUST work in these
cases.

// Peili: This cover's different requirments from SIP-T,
I don't see any relationship.

Chris.





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