Francois Audet wrote:
>  
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> Cutting to the chase, I'd put the following on my business card:
>>>
>>> tel: +1-408-495-2456
>>> sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Interestingly, that doesn't indicate that you are reachable 
>> via sip using the numeric address.
> 
> Yes, I did that on purpose. I don't see a point in doing it.
> 
>> A sip caller given the tel might figure that out, but might 
>> not. If you had user enum, and the caller used it, then all 
>> is well. But if not, and if the caller just blasts the tel 
>> uri to his SP, it may figure it out, and may not.
>>
>> You are going to ask why the caller would use the tel form in 
>> that case. 
>> One reason would be because the UI of the device only 
>> supports numeric input.
> 
> So, a SIP user (or anybody young enough to prefer IM paradigm to phone
> paradigm) will use sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> The old luddites with a PSTN-looking phone will keep on dialing digits
> on their phone. That's where the Tel URI is useful.
> 
> The niche market for sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone is very 
> small. Beyond people on this mailing list, I really don't see who would
> care. I really believe that practically speaking, sip:[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED];user=phone
> is meant to be used "on-the wire" as opposed to by users.
> 
> sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]                   ~= http://www.att.com
> sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];user=phone ~= 
> http://www.att.com/gen/landing-pages?pid=3308
> 
> I think we are rat-holing on imaginary issues.

Perhaps. The above is a bit esoteric. A more realisic issue is what to 
put in From, where at the moment you can't put multiple choices. So I 
have to choose whether to cater to the luddites or the young. (I'm not 
young, but I don't think I'm *quite* a luddite. Just saddled with a lot 
of legacy stuff I don't have the option of changing or am too cheap to 
change. (I *am* cheap.))

At least with P-A-I you can put both a sip and a tel. The alternative 
being explored on this list of including both in normal sip signaling 
would solve that.

        Paul
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