On the Internet Calling->NAT Traversal  page I have checked the box next
to "Server is behind NAT."

On the Gateways -> ISTP Account page SIP Keepalive is set to "None"
which is supposed to default to CR-LF and RTP keepalive is set to
"replay last packet."

Flowroute's account settings page doesn't offer any options regarding
NAT. I'll have to ask them if they can disable any NAT Traversal
settings.


On Mon 06.Sep.10 17:28, Tony Graziano wrote:
>Can you confirm you system is behind nat, and your settings are as I
>described?
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tony Graziano <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
><sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>Sent: Mon Sep 06 17:08:36 2010
>Subject: Re: [sipx-users] calls drop after 20 minutes
>
>With flowroute, your sip-keepalive should be CR-LF and the RTP keepalive
>should be "replay last packet".
>
>You can safely ignore their statement about NAT's networks, because
>sipxbridge takes care of that for you. In ANY installation where sipx is
>behind nat with a properly configured firewall YOU_SHOULD_NOT have any
>setting at the ITSP that activates ANY_KIND_OF_NAT_HELPER mechanism. For
>instance, with voip.ms I disable NAT for the account, MOH and so forth. I
>don;t want them to try to figure NAY of that out for me, because sipxbridge
>is well suited to do that for me.
>
>I don't know how to interpret the statement from flowroute, because it is
>confusing, as you DONT WANT them to try to traverse NAT for you in a
>properly installed and configured system with sipxbridge behind NAT.
>
>Verify the above settings.
>
>With flowroute, your sip-keepalive should be CR-LF and the RTP keepalive
>should be "replay last packet" in your gateway configuration.
>
>DISABLE ANY NAT HELPER "stuff" that flowroute allows you to, there is
>typically only ONE setting.
>
>If after this you have issues, ask them to capture a call that fails and
>tell you "why", because it would appear to be a call timer issue (on their
>end).
>
>On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dan McDaniel <d...@dm3.us> wrote:
>
>> I asked Flowroute what was their preferred method for SIP keepalive.
>> Apparently, they don't need it at all. Here's the reply:
>>
>>   The SIP keepalive is used by VoIP providers that cannot transverse NATed
>>   networks, however, Flowroute's    network supports the use of NATed
>>   systems as we are able to transverse the network so long as you have not
>>   modified your system to make it appear as if it is not NATed.
>>
>> Also, I only have two choices for SIP keepalive on the gateway->ISTP
>> Account page: None and Empty SIP message. The description below the box
>> says,
>>
>>   Defines the message to use for SIP keepalive. If nothing is specified,
>>   CR-LF (empty SIP message) is used.
>>
>> This makes it sound like "None" defaults to empty SIP message, or you
>> can select "empty SIP message." What's the difference?
>>
>>
>> On Mon 06.Sep.10 09:49, dan wrote:
>> >Thanks, Tony. I'll check with them.
>> >
>> >On Mon 06.Sep.10 12:07, Tony Graziano wrote:
>> >>You need to ask them what their preferred SIP KEEPALIVE method is, and
>> >>change the gateway accordingly.
>> >>
>> >>Alternatively you can change the SIP KEEPALIVE method to a different
>> value
>> >>and wait 21 minutes to see if the calls till works. If you have an
>> account
>> >>with them, they should be able to answer this easily.
>> >>
>> >>On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:04 PM, dan <d...@dm3.us> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been having a problem with calls dropping. The ISTP (Flowroute)
>> >>> sends a BYE after 20 minutes and the call ends. Is this more likely to
>> >>> be a configuration problem on my end or a problem with the ISTP? Just
>> >>> looking for pointers on where to start troubleshooting.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm running 4.2.1 (4.2.1-018971.dhubler 2010-08-21T04:59:18 build34).
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Dan McDaniel
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>> >>
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>> >>Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
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>
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