Yes. In this case the service is not used.

Stiles

Tony Graziano wrote:
> Does the cable modem provider offer a voice service?
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>
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
> Sent: Tue Sep 21 12:01:58 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SRV records for ftp
>
> OK, I think I'm down to my last issue.
>
> What works:
> * I can place incoming calls from the PSTN through flowroute
> * From the PSTN, I can dial the remote extension from the auto attendant
> and audio works in both directions
>
> What does not
> * I can dial out to the PSTN from the remote extension and I have audio
> from the person called, but no audio from the remote.
>
> The last problem exists regardless of what I physically do on the remote
> end. I have tried the remote phone behind 3 different routers. I have
> tried having the phone behind VPN and not behind VPN (outbound proxy on
> phone was always set to the local WAN in both cases). I even tried
> plugging the phone directly into the cable modem so no router/firewall
> is involved and the phone's IP was the remote WAN. The same problem
> exists regardless of what I do.
>
> This leads me to the conclusion that it is not a remote SIP ALG or
> firewall issue.
>
> * The pubic IP setting under Server-->NAT is set to the local WAN
> * Under Internet Calling-->NAT both boxes are checked
> * Intranet Domains is set to the correct domain
> * Intranet Subnets is set the company's LAN subnet in the following
> format:  xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24
> * SIP ALG is turned off on the local sonicwall
> * firewall rules and NAT rules are in place
>
> Any clues?
>
> Stiles
>
>
> Tony Graziano wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Stiles Watson <wat...@datatek-net.com
>> <mailto:wat...@datatek-net.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     See response below:
>>
>>     Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     > When you generate a profile, it creates the configuration files the
>>     > phone needs.
>>     >
>>     > When you get a 0x error on booting a polycom it is usually
>>     because the
>>     > profile is there or there is a firmware you are trying to send the
>>     > phone that is not compatible. then you see it constantly reboot and
>>     > repeat the cycle.
>>     >
>>     > YOU MUST send the profile (even if the phone is not plugged in)
>>     or the
>>     > phone cannot pick it up. That's how the configs are generated.
>>     (all of
>>     > this is in the book, btw).
>>            Thanks, understood.
>>     >
>>     > If you have no audio, you should ensure the registration is
>>     occurring
>>     > properly in sipxconfig
>>     >
>>     > it should give you the real IP address of the remote firewall with a
>>     > private contact address of the phone (phone internal ip address).
>>            I'm assuming when you say real IP you mean the remote WAN
>>     IP. If
>>     that is true then, yes that is how the registration appears under
>>     Diagnostics-->Registrations.
>>     >
>>     > if you are having audio issues, you must ENSURE the SPI (stateful
>>     > packet filtering) and SIP ALG is turned off on the remote firewall.
>>     > you must also ensure the server is set to behind nat, remote
>>     users are
>>     > enabled, and that your intranet subnets are properly defined.
>>            * Remote SPI is off
>>            * as far as I am aware DD-WRT (v24 (05/24/08) vpn -- not voip)
>>     has no SIP ALG
>>            * Server behind NAT is checked
>>            * remote users are enabled
>>            * For intranet subnets, does the remote user's subnet have
>>     to be
>>     added? I'm assuming so, but I just want to be sure.
>>
>> No. Only if it is on WAN or VPN (route to it without NAT) should it be
>> added there.
>>
>> The sipx server page should also have your NAT setting with the public
>> facing ip of sipx configured.
>>
>> Independently ddwrt may have sipxroxd or milkfish compiled with it, so
>> you ought to check on that and make sure it is disabled...
>>
>>
>>           Still does not work, but I'll keep digging.
>>
>>           Stiles
>>     >
>>     > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Stiles Watson
>>     <wat...@datatek-net.com <mailto:wat...@datatek-net.com>
>>     > <mailto:wat...@datatek-net.com <mailto:wat...@datatek-net.com>>>
>>     wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     you wrote, "Is it just this hard for you?"
>>     >
>>     >     I'm not sure how to take that.
>>     >
>>     >     Anyway, I did as you said and clicked "Send Profiles." The
>>     job failed
>>     >     due to timeout, but it must have generated all the files,
>>     because
>>     >     on the
>>     >     next reboot, the phone registered - via tftp!
>>     >
>>     >     I know you think it's easier to use FTP, but I have to work
>>     within the
>>     >     resources and limitations I have.
>>     >
>>     >     Thanks again for your help and insight.
>>     >
>>     >     BTW, I can dial another extension, but I get no audio. I'll
>>     try do dig
>>     >     that out on my own via the book, the wiki and the archives
>>     before I
>>     >     bother anyone else.
>>     >
>>     >     Stiles
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     >     > Go to the phone in sipxconfig and generate (push) profile
>>     to the
>>     >     phone. A
>>     >     > reboot of the phone is not necessary.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Is it just this hard for you?
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Hopefully you don't have a version of firmware earlier than
>>     >     3.2.1. A 335 is
>>     >     > a difficult phone to deploy remotely with a polycom r.e
>>     bug. If
>>     >     I were you
>>     >     > I'd turn off any device files (inactivate) so you aren't
>>     >     mistakenly trying
>>     >     > to push an ealier version.
>>     >     > ============================
>>     >     > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     > Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>
>>     >     >
>>     >     > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     >     > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     > Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>     >     >
>>     >     > ----- Original Message -----
>>     >     > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     > <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>     >     > <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     > Sent: Mon Sep 20 13:06:57 2010
>>     >     > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SRV records for ftp
>>     >     >
>>     >     > That is very true.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Interesting development: I pulled down the polycom ip 335
>>     admin
>>     >     guide
>>     >     > and on the top of page 41 (3-5) there is the following note:
>>     >     >
>>     >     > "Setting Option 66 to tftp://192.168.9.10
>>     <http://192.168.9.10> <http://192.168.9.10>
>>     >     has the effect of forcing a
>>     >     > TFTP download. Using a TFTP URL (for example,
>>     >     > tftp://provserver.polycom.com
>>     <http://provserver.polycom.com> <http://provserver.polycom.com>)
>>     >     has the same effect."
>>     >     >
>>     >     > So, I manually configed the phone and set the "Server Type" to
>>     >     > "TrivalFTP," and set the "Server Address" to
>>     >     "tftp://24.106.178.178 <http://24.106.178.178>
>>     <http://24.106.178.178>"
>>     >     > (the WAN), opened the firewall to allow tftp traffic to
>>     the sipxecs
>>     >     > subnet, added appropriate NAT policies, rebooted the phone
>>     and ...
>>     >     >
>>     >     > I get "Config file error Error is 0x20" and the phone
>>     continuously
>>     >     > reboots. On reboot, the phone displays "Updating Config," gets
>>     >     an IP,
>>     >     > displays the error and the process starts all over again.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > I'm assuming this means it actually tried to get a file
>>     from the
>>     >     server
>>     >     > and there is either something wrong with the file or no
>>     file was
>>     >     found,
>>     >     > but that is just a guess. Based on this assumption, I
>>     executed a
>>     >     find
>>     >     > for the MAC.cfg on the server, but nothing was found,
>>     which seems
>>     >     > incorrect.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Am I getting closer or just spinning my wheels?
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Stiles
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >> You changes the sip password in sipxconfig since the phone
>>     >     loaded its
>>     >     >> profile last.
>>     >     >> ============================
>>     >     >> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     >> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     >> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     >     >> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     >> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     >> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> ----- Original Message -----
>>     >     >> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >> <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     >> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>     >     >> <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     >> Sent: Mon Sep 20 12:02:33 2010
>>     >     >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SRV records for ftp
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> The registration request is getting to sipx. I turned the
>>     >     logging level
>>     >     >> to DEBUG, restarted the services and executed following:
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> tail -f /var/log/sipxpbx/sipXproxy.log | grep "REGISTER
>>     sip" | grep
>>     >     >> "1...@datatek-net.com <mailto:1...@datatek-net.com>
>>     <mailto:1...@datatek-net.com <mailto:1...@datatek-net.com>>" >
>>     >     regdebug141.log
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> After the polycom reboot completed, I executed
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> wc -l regdebug141.log
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> and received "17 regdebug141.log" as the result. I then
>>     executed
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> grep -i received regdebug141.log  | wc -l
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> with a result of '9'. When I tail
>>     >     /var/log/sipxpbx/sipregistrar.log I
>>     >     >> see the following:
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> "2010-09-20T15:19:11.048702Z":33020:AUTH:DEBUG:sipx.datatek-net.com:SipRegistrarServer:B6C81B90:SipRegistrar:"SipRegistrarServer::isAuthorized
>>     >     >> fromNameAddr='\"Stiles
>>     >     >> Watson\"<sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>>;tag=1F8AD21E-973871A1',
>>     >     >> toUri='sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>', realm='datatek-net.com
>>     <http://datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://datatek-net.com>'"
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> "2010-09-20T15:19:11.051052Z":33028:AUTH:ERR:sipx.datatek-net.com:SipRegistrarServer:B6C81B90:SipRegistrar:"Response
>>     >     >> auth hash does not match (bad password?)
>>     >     toUri='sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>'
>>     >     >> requestUser='141/0004f22d79be'
>>     >     >> requestNonce='473b74442d2dcf443a0823b9dbbdefaa4c977b6e'
>>     >     >> uriParam='sip:datatek-net.com:5060
>>     <http://datatek-net.com:5060>
>>     >     <http://datatek-net.com:5060>' passTokenDB='6qk50suJ'
>>     >     >> authTypeDB='DIGEST'"
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> "2010-09-20T15:19:11.052127Z":33030:SIP:DEBUG:sipx.datatek-net.com:SipRegistrarServer:B6C81B90:SipRegistrar:"
>>     >     >> ----------------------------------
>>     >     >> Sending final response
>>     >     >> SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
>>     >     >> From: \"Stiles Watson\" <sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>>;tag=1F8AD21E-973871A1
>>     >     >> To: <sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>>;tag=50CQ8f
>>     >     >> Call-Id: 653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102
>>     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102>
>>     >     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102
>>     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102>>
>>     >     >> Cseq: 2 REGISTER
>>     >     >> Via: SIP/2.0/TCP
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> 24.106.178.178:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-131f715siA6jenamQxLO0Tevfg;received=192.168.25.11;rport=54527
>>     >     >> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> 192.168.16.102;branch=z9hG4bK6e5a416f288A684A;received=75.189.229.254;rport=5060
>>     >     >> Www-Authenticate: Digest realm=\"datatek-net.com
>>     <http://datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://datatek-net.com>\",
>>     >     >> nonce=\"9406c4cb79ee436c0cfd9b2082a412444c977b6f\",
>>     qop=\"auth\"
>>     >     >> User-Agent: sipXecs/4.2.1 sipXecs/registry (Linux)
>>     >     >> Content-Length: 0"
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> "2010-09-20T15:19:11.061815Z":33038:OUTGOING:INFO:sipx.datatek-net.com:SipRegistrarServer:B6C81B90:SipRegistrar:"SipUserAgent::sendTcp
>>     >     >> TCP SIP User Agent sent message:
>>     >     >> ----Local Host:192.168.25.11---- Port: -1----
>>     >     >> ----Remote Host:192.168.25.11---- Port: 54527----
>>     >     >> SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
>>     >     >> From: \"Stiles Watson\" <sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>>;tag=1F8AD21E-973871A1
>>     >     >> To: <sip:1...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <mailto:sip%3a...@datatek-net.com
>>     <mailto:sip%253a...@datatek-net.com>>>;tag=50CQ8f
>>     >     >> Call-Id: 653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102
>>     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102>
>>     >     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102
>>     <mailto:653dce0e-9a15011-6ecf0...@192.168.16.102>>
>>     >     >> Cseq: 2 REGISTER
>>     >     >> Via: SIP/2.0/TCP
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> 24.106.178.178:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-131f715siA6jenamQxLO0Tevfg;received=192.168.25.11;rport=54527
>>     >     >> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
>>     >     >>
>>     >
>>
>> 192.168.16.102;branch=z9hG4bK6e5a416f288A684A;received=75.189.229.254;rport=5060
>>     >     >> Www-Authenticate: Digest realm=\"datatek-net.com
>>     <http://datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://datatek-net.com>\",
>>     >     >> nonce=\"9406c4cb79ee436c0cfd9b2082a412444c977b6f\",
>>     qop=\"auth\"
>>     >     >> User-Agent: sipXecs/4.2.1 sipXecs/registry (Linux)
>>     >     >> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:19:11 GMT
>>     >     >> Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, REFER, OPTIONS, REGISTER,
>>     >     SUBSCRIBE
>>     >     >> Accept-Language: en
>>     >     >> Supported: gruu, path
>>     >     >> Content-Length: 0
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> --------------------END--------------------"
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> I've tripple-checked the SIP pasword and it is correct.
>>     So I'm
>>     >     guessing
>>     >     >> "Response auth hash does not match (bad password?)" from
>>     the debug
>>     >     >> statement is referring to something else.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Stiles
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>> If it has a valid config file and the remoe firewall has spi
>>     >     and sip alg
>>     >     >>> off
>>     >     >>> and your sonicwall is not getting in thje way, yes.
>>     >     >>> ============================
>>     >     >>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     >>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     >>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     >     >>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     >>> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     >>> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>     >     >>> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >>> <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     >>> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>     >     >>> <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>>
>>     >     >>> Sent: Mon Sep 20 07:50:59 2010
>>     >     >>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SRV records for ftp
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Still working through the options you've given me, but the
>>     >     Polysom should
>>     >     >>> be able to register remotely without ftp if everything
>>     is configed
>>     >     >>> correctly, right?
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Stiles
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:43:24 -0400, Tony Graziano
>>     >     >>> <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>> wrote:
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>> By the way... the first sentence in this thread is:
>>     >     >>>> "OK Tony, shoot me down:"
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> It's actually the IETF and Polycom who did the shooting
>>     here...
>>     >     >>>> IETF should write two papers on an RFC. Once for engineers,
>>     >     and one for
>>     >     >>>> everyone else instead of trying to deciper what they mean
>>     >     with loosely
>>     >     >>>> selected verbs.
>>     >     >>>> Polycom (like a lot of hardware manufacturers) should
>>     state,
>>     >     this works
>>     >     >>>> for this, that works for that, and not you can't mix and
>>     >     match ip's and
>>     >     >>>> ports, we like it this way... it wouldn't be that hard.
>>     >     >>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Tony Graziano  wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  Realize the Aastra is a different client, and "how" the
>>     >     manufacturer
>>     >     >>>> implements a protocol is VERY different from another one...
>>     >     >>>> FTP is the way to do it, and these days PASV FTP is pretty
>>     >     much needed
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> to
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>> do bootrom updates with Polycom. Even in their http/https
>>     >     provisioning
>>     >     >>>> they won't do bootrom and firmware over https, only
>>     http. So
>>     >     it's not as
>>     >     >>>> simple as "just make sipx use https", it would have to do
>>     >     both. Add to
>>     >     >>>> that Polycom is constantly changing their config file
>>     format,
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> parameters,
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>> arguments, etc. FTP works, so that's what I suggest to do.
>>     >     >>>> Can you get another IP and add it to the firewall (even if
>>     >     just for
>>     >     >>>> ftp)...?
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Stiles Watson  wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  Thanks, you are a wealth of info! I'll try the several
>>     >     options you've
>>     >     >>>>  given me.
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>  FYI, I had an Aastra 67301i auto provisioning with trixbox
>>     >     CE via TFTP.
>>     >     >>>>  The phone made its request to the public IP and all I
>>     had to
>>     >     do on the
>>     >     >>>>  local firewall was open the port for WAN to trixbox subnet
>>     >     and create
>>     >     >>>>  the NAT rules to send the request to the trixbox
>>     server. No
>>     >     remote
>>     >     >>>>  firewall config had to be done.
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>  Stiles
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>  Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  > Crap. That's a loaded question.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > It all in the protocol, and ANY nat translation.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > TFTP (nothing to do with sipx, its the nature of tftp)
>>     >     must use a
>>     >     >>>>  > pseudo random port or your remote firewall must have
>>     a way
>>     >     to punch
>>     >     >>>>  > through udp in NAT mode, which is not the same as
>>     ANY NAT
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> translation,
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>>  > which means it is inherently PASV, but the typical tftpd
>>     >     in linux
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> does
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>>  > not have the ability to specify PORTS. It's like
>>     PASV FTP,
>>     >     where port
>>     >     >>>>  > 21 is the control channel, but in vsftpd you specify the
>>     >     ports where
>>     >     >>>>  > the requests for data is coming from. It is more likely
>>     >     the remote
>>     >     >>>>  > firewall (try putting the phone IP as a DMZ host just to
>>     >     see if tftp
>>     >     >>>>  > works). I don't fiddle much with home based routers,
>>     >     they're a pain.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3489.txt [3]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > It makes me need a drink, and its why I use FTP for
>>     remote
>>     >     phones.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > There is a way to get that to work, but you must
>>     have the
>>     >     required
>>     >     >>>>  > items (port translation, and that pattern is full).
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Stiles Watson  > wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     Well, not so happy about that.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     Thanks for the explanation though.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     So ... why can I not use TFTP?
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     Stiles
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     Tony Graziano wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Er.. Bang?
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     I could assume the FTP NAT/PAT (NAT with port
>>     >     translation) from
>>     >     >>>>  >>     21 to 844 would work...
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     PHONE--(grab file at
>>     >     >>>>  >>     ftp://1.2.3.4:8444 [6])INTERNET
>>     192.168.2.2:21 <http://192.168.2.2:21>
>>     >     <http://192.168.2.2:21> [7] ,
>>     >     >>>> sending it on>>--vsftpd
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     1. I don't think the polycom is sophisticated
>>     enough
>>     >     to do any
>>     >     >>>>  >>     type of DNS lookup other than hostname or IP
>>     for ftp,
>>     >     so the
>>     >     >>>> SRV
>>     >     >>>>  >>     record is not useful, you're better off
>>     removing it.
>>     >     >>>>  >>     2. The remote phone must be hardcoded
>>     >     >>>>  >>     (menu>advanced>servermenu>ftp  ftp port BUT the
>>     >     >>>>  >>     polycom doesn't allow you to change the PORT.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     If the SRV records do work, you should alter vsftpd
>>     >     to run on
>>     >     >>>>  >>     that port anyway, but I am doubtful that is
>>     functional.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >
>>
>> http://www.polycom.com/global/documents/support/setup_maintenance/products/voice/spip_ssip_Admin_Guide_SIP_3_1.pdf
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>> [9]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     3-9 and 3-10 pretty much tell me a hostname or
>>     IP is
>>     >     all they
>>     >     >>>>  >>     accept. The protocols are perhaps
>>     non-negotiable for
>>     >     >>>> provisioning
>>     >     >>>>  >>     to alter the port with the exception of the "120"
>>     >     option, which
>>     >     >>>>  >>     is a string, though the polycom may not handle
>>     >     parsing the
>>     >     >>>>  >>     ip:port part of it as it has very limited logic at
>>     >     bootup.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Don't assume when they say ftps they mean ftp over
>>     >     ssh, its
>>     >     >>>> not,
>>     >     >>>>  >>     it means ssl is configured and running on your ftp
>>     >     server, but
>>     >     >>>>  >>     still running on port 21. So you either need to
>>     >     "change" the
>>     >     >>>> NAT
>>     >     >>>>  >>     on your firewall and see if the PASV config setting
>>     >     work and
>>     >     >>>> the
>>     >     >>>>  >>     phone provisions remotely, then decide how you want
>>     >     to proceed.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Bootrom changes pretty much force a
>>     "non-active" FTP
>>     >     server to
>>     >     >>>> be
>>     >     >>>>  >>     out of the picture (really, in the document link
>>     >     above, go
>>     >     >>>>  >>     figure), which means you can upgrade firmware and
>>     >     config but
>>     >     >>>> not
>>     >     >>>>  >>     bootrom after a certain version is loaded. So
>>     thanks
>>     >     Doug for
>>     >     >>>>  >>     pushing on this one.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     I think Polycom is REAL FUZZY on this, because
>>     they don't
>>     >     >>>>  >>     EXPLICITLY state the following:
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     FTP or FTPS means PORT 21, no exceptions! (etc. for
>>     >     ftfp, http
>>     >     >>>> on
>>     >     >>>>  >>     port 80 https on 443, etc.
>>     >     >>>>  >>     PASV FTP requires the following commands to be
>>     >     available on the
>>     >     >>>>  >>     FTP server (and provide the fracking list!).
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     I am real doubtful you can put in a "120"
>>     string and do
>>     >     >>>>  >>     "ftp://1.2.3.4:8444 [10]", but heck maybe you
>>     can and
>>     >     I'm just
>>     >     >>>> too
>>     >     >>>>  >>     lazy to try?
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     So this means you can test with what you got but
>>     >     rearrange the
>>     >     >>>>  >>     firewall, push your configs, and then change it
>>     >     back... or get
>>     >     >>>>  >>     another public IP on your firewall for this...
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Stiles Watson
>>     >     >>>>  >>      wrote:
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         OK Tony, shoot me down:
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         I'm attempting to do what you suggested and
>>     use FTP
>>     >     >>>> instead
>>     >     >>>>  >>         of TFTP for
>>     >     >>>>  >>         remote provisioning the Polycom IP 335. The
>>     >     problem is
>>     >     >>>> that
>>     >     >>>>  >>         we already
>>     >     >>>>  >>         use FTP and we can not move our customer facing
>>     >     FTP to
>>     >     >>>>  >>         another port. I
>>     >     >>>>  >>         figured I could just configure the phone to use
>>     >     ftp on
>>     >     >>>>  >>         another port -
>>     >     >>>>  >>         but i was wrong (at least I could not find an
>>     >     place to do
>>     >     >>>> it).
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         Therefore, my solution:
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         * setup an SRV record to point to the
>>     >     non-standard ftp
>>     >     >>>> port
>>     >     >>>>  >>         (8444)
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         ** _ftp._tcp.datatek-net.com
>>     <http://tcp.datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://tcp.datatek-net.com> [13] .
>>     >     >>>>  >>         7200    IN    SRV    0 0 8444
>>     datatek-net.com <http://datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://datatek-net.com> [15]
>>     >     >>>>  >>         .
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         ** this SRV record was created on the
>>     primary DNS
>>     >     for our
>>     >     >>>>  >>         domain and not
>>     >     >>>>  >>         on the DNS server running on the sipX box as it
>>     >     is behind
>>     >     >>>> NAT.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         * configured the phone to use FTP and use
>>     the SRV
>>     >     url as
>>     >     >>>> the
>>     >     >>>>  >>         server (
>>     >     >>>>  >>         _ftp._tcp.datatek-net.com
>>     <http://tcp.datatek-net.com>
>>     >     <http://tcp.datatek-net.com> [17]  )
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         * configured the firewall to allow (8444)
>>     traffic
>>     >     from
>>     >     >>>> WAN to
>>     >     >>>>  >>         the sipX
>>     >     >>>>  >>         subdomain
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         * created a PAT policy to translate port 8444
>>     >     coming into
>>     >     >>>> the
>>     >     >>>>  >>         WAN to
>>     >     >>>>  >>         port 21 and forwarded it to the sipX server.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         I also configed vsftp.conf via your xx-8904
>>     >     ticket as you
>>     >     >>>>  >>         suggested.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         But ... it still does not work.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         By the way, I bought the e-book yesterday
>>     and am
>>     >     finding
>>     >     >>>> it
>>     >     >>>>  >>         very helpful.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         Stiles
>>     >     >>>>  >>         _______________________________________________
>>     >     >>>>  >>         sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >>>>  >>         sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>> [19]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>         List Archive:
>>     >     >>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [21]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     --
>>     >     >>>>  >>     ======================
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              434.984.8430
>>     >     >>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [22]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>> [24]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems
>>     Helpdesk:
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     >>>>  >>     sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [26]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     >>>>  >>     http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ [28]
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and
>>     >     Christmas?
>>     >     >>>>  >>     Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>  >>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     >     >>>>  >>     _______________________________________________
>>     >     sipx-users
>>     >     >>>>  >>     mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>> [29]
>>     >     >>>>  >>      List Archive:
>>     >     >>>>  >>     http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [31]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >     _______________________________________________
>>     >     >>>>  >     sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >>>>  >     sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>> [32]
>>     >     >>>>  >     List Archive:
>>     >     http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >>>> [34]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > --
>>     >     >>>>  > ======================
>>     >     >>>>  > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     >>>>  > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     >>>>  > sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [35]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>> [37]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     >     >>>>  > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     >>>>  > sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [39]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     >>>>  > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ [41]
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and
>>     Christmas?
>>     >     >>>>  > Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     >     >>>>  >
>>     >     >>>>  > _______________________________________________
>>     >     >>>>  > sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >>>>  > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>> [42]
>>     >     >>>>  > List Archive:
>>     >     http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [43]
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>  _______________________________________________
>>     >     >>>>  sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >>>>  sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>> [44]
>>     >     >>>>  List Archive:
>>     http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     [45]
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> --
>>     >     >>>> ======================
>>     >     >>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     >     >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     >     >>>> sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [46]
>>     >     >>>>  Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>> [47]
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     >     >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     >     >>>> sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     >     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>> [48]
>>     >     >>>>  Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     >     >>>> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ [49]
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and
>>     Christmas?
>>     >     >>>>  Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> _______________________________________________
>>     >     >>> sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >>> _______________________________________________
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>>     >     >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >> _______________________________________________
>>     >     >> sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >> _______________________________________________
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>>     >     >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >
>>     >     > _______________________________________________
>>     >     > sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     > _______________________________________________
>>     >     > sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     >     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >
>>     >     _______________________________________________
>>     >     sipx-users mailing list
>>     >     sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>     <mailto:sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>>
>>     >     List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > ======================
>>     > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>     > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>     > sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     > <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net>>
>>     > Fax: 434.984.8431
>>     >
>>     > Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>
>>     >
>>     > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>     > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>     > sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>
>>     > <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net
>>     <mailto:helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net>>
>>     > Fax: 434.984.8427
>>     >
>>     > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>     > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>     >
>>     > Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
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