On May 7, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

>
> On 7 May 2008, at 3:17 PM, Derick Fay wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> To somone's comment,
>>>> "Count me as another voice wanting Skim integration. A question
>>>> regarding this ? would/could quicklook provide the bridge for this?
>>>> If skim files are 'quicklookable' (I think this is planned)  
>>>> couldn't
>>>> DT use the quicklook image of Skimmed PDFs?"
>>>>
>>>
>>> The question is: use for what? QL cannot provide Skim integration  
>>> for
>>> PDFs, as those are handled by the system (and QL allows only a  
>>> single
>>> plugin for each file type). There is already QL support for .skim
>>> files and .pdfd bundles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can't one override the system plugins?  This guy has done it for
>> folders and zip files: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/t_trace/20071124/p3
>>
>
> No, AFAIK they can't be overriden. I think if you have more than one
> plugin for a UTI it gets confused and you end up with nothing.

I thought that bug was fixed in 10.5.1?  It was noted as a bug on the  
quicklook-dev list, anyway; IIRC the search order is bundled in app, ~/ 
Library, /Library, /System/Library.  If two apps have a plugin for the  
same UTI, then your order becomes non-deterministic.  I use a syntax  
highlighting plugin that manages to override the system plugin for  
plist and source code, so it's possible at some level.
>
>
> Your example is irrelevant, as the system does not have QL support for
> folders and zip file, so he's not overriding anything.
>
>> A Skim QL plugin to override the system pdf could behave as follows:
>> - if there are no annotations, just display the pdf
>> - if there are embedded annotations, display the pdf with the
>> annotations
>> - if there's a skim file in the same location (i.e. under the same
>> conditions where skim asks if you want to load the external notes),
>> display the pdf with annotations
>>
>
> Apart from the fact that it's not possible, I don't really think it's
> worth it. QL is meant as a quick preview, not for reading. I'd say
> that just the PDF is more than sufficient for that.

For in-depth study and annotation, QL is not the right tool, but I use  
QL all the time for skimming/reading PDF/text/html files since it's  
lightweight and fast.  However, ISTR from previous discussions that  
the DT users just want to see notes/highlights on the PDF; since Skim  
doesn't give those via QL, they're SOL.

Notes-on-pdf could easily be done for .pdfd by saving a separate copy  
of the pdf with embedded notes in File.pdfd/QuickLook/Preview.pdf, but  
would bloat up file size and save times.  Otherwise it would require  
pulling all of Skim's drawing stuff into a QL plugin...which would be  
very difficult.

-- 
adam

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