On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:01 , Thomas Schneider wrote:

>> Alternately, you could hack Skim to get each page's rotation and
>> apply it to the new document when you reload, or store a flag
>> somewhere indicating that you had previously rotated pages. 
> 
> I looked at the available tools and checked again.  The Rotate Right,
> Rotate Left and Rotate buttons all rotate every page of the document. 
> There are no tools for rotating just one page.  Is this something that
> was going to be implemented later?  If not, then the preexisting
> rotations are always going to be for all pages so couldn't a single
> variable hold the memory of that?

I believe you overlooked Tools->Rotate Page Left and Tools->Rotate Page Right 
on the main menu.  As in most applications, toolbar buttons are only a subset 
of all possible actions.

> Why is Skim remembering the page it is on after a refresh?  There
> could be more or less pages.  

There was discussion about this on the bibdesk-develop and bibdesk-users lists 
back in 2006-2007.  Some of the developers didn't want to add auto-reloading 
because of page number changes and the chance of screwing up notes, and I still 
think you should avoid it if at all possible.

> What is different about remembering page
> rotations from rembering the current page?

Rotation is an inherent property of each PDF page.  Suppose you have mixed 
landscape/portrait pages in your PDF document, and Skim loads it as such.  If 
you reload that and have a different number of pages, or if you rearrange them, 
how is it supposed to know which pages are landscape and which are portrait?

The current page is a similar problem; it's a heuristic that will fail at 
times.  I understand why this seems inconsistent, but I'd suggest that the 
correct solution is to reset the current page to the first page after 
reloading.  TeX editors have things like synctex to take care of this reliably.

> 
>> [1] "Hypothesis, my dear young friend, establishes itself by a
>> cumulative process: or, to use popular language, if you make the
>> same guess often enough it ceases to be a guess and becomes a
>> Scientific Fact."  Mr. Enlightenment, in "The Pilgrim's Regress"
> 
> In actual science a hypothesis doesn't change by repeating it.

Correct, and no matter how many times you repeat your guess that page rotation 
is stored as a single bit, it does not become a fact.



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