Have you even tried? hitting the escape key in a call?  If you have with 
skype4, you'd know, there is no reason for your concern.  it's already taken 
out.  It no longer does that.

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Gassman" <lgsin...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." 
<skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] scripts for beta 4


> Well, as long as everyone seems to be playing programmer regarding
> the beta, I wish that once again we could get rid of the escape key
> when ending a call.  Yes, I know that I can go in and script for
> this, but it is very aggravating when speaking to someone and you hit
> the escape key and they disappear.
> If we're going to make comments about what we like and do not like in
> Beta 4 with regard to accessibility, then I'll ad my comets about the
> escape key once again.
> Thanks.
> Larry
> At 08:00 PM 6-21-2008, you wrote:
>>Pardon my replying in mid-post format instead of top-posting like we
>>normally do on lists populated primarily by blind people.  I'm
>>forwarding this entire message to a Skype guy who's currently sitting
>>across a table from me in a Hilton hotel bar. <grin>
>>
>>On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 07:03:10PM -0700, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:
>> > I would first like to start out by commending doug  for excellent work 
>> > on
>> > the new scripts.  You are simply amazing getting a beta version of the
>> > scripts out  only three days after the initial release of Beta one is 
>> > quite
>> > impressive.
>>
>>They were actually out on the same day as the beta release, but I'm
>>afraid that wasn't as amazing as you might think.  I started work on
>>these weeks ago. <smile>
>>
>> > That being said I would like to say a few things about the Skype beta
>> > itself.
>> > I will try to keep most of my comments on accessibility concerns since 
>> > that
>> > is the purpose of this list.
>> > Skype has switched from a multiple window system and multiple tab 
>> > system to
>> > a multiple pain  system.
>> > This being said, the standard keyboard command for switching between 
>> > panes
>> > is F6 to move forward by pain  and shipped  F6 to move backward by 
>> > pain.
>> > They should implement jumping to pains with control and  the number 
>> > keys.
>> > With all of the available panes appearing  in the view menu.
>>
>>There are only two panes.  The left pane is where the Contact list or
>>the Conversation list appear, whichever you choose.  Skype natively
>>lets you type Alt+1 or Alt+2 to show and focus Contacts or
>>Conversations in that pane, respectively.  I changed those to Ctrl+1
>>and Ctrl+2 to keep from conflicting with the normal Alt+numbers for
>>reading chat messages, and I am encouraging Skype to make that change
>>internally.  The View menu also has options to switch between Contacts
>>and Conversations, but again, those are two lists in the left pane,
>>only one of which shows up at a time.  My recommendation, based on
>>yours and on what's already being done, is that F6 and Shift+F6 be
>>implemented because they are standard pane-switching commands, but
>>that Ctrl+numbers *not* be assigned to jumping to specific panes, as
>>they have better uses.
>>
>>If more than two panes can exist in Skype 4, I don't know it but that
>>might change my recommendations a bit.
>>
>> > The context menu shortcuts should be changed to mean something useful. 
>> > For
>> > example, when in the  context pane and you right click on
>> a  contact  all of
>> > the items for sends spell out the word  send.  Sorry    this is not
>> > intuitive.  If I want to send an instant message, the intuitive 
>> > shortcut
>> > would be i.  if I want to send a person a file the intuitive shortcut 
>> > would
>> > be f, and so on.
>> > We have the same problem in the menu bar with three items starting with 
>> > the
>> > letter C. all of them having the shortcut of  c.
>> > Let the shortcut for Paul be the letter a.  Let the shortcut for
>> > conversation be the letter C. and let the shortcut for contacts be the
>> > letter o.
>>
>>Agreed:  (1) each shortcut must be unique to make them useful, and (2)
>>they should be assigned mnemonically, not aesthetically.  Standard
>>shortcut assignment rules are to pick the first available letter for
>>each option, but this was causing problems of consistency before, like
>>Alt+O for Options changing to Alt+P when an item was added above
>>Options in the Tools menu, and View Profile in Context menus being V
>>in some and W in others.  I therefore propose that a mnemonic
>>assignment, once assigned, not change as new menu items are
>>added--particularly when the already-assigned item is frequently used.
>>
>> > Put the change your mood  text  back in the profile menu.  After all, 
>> > you
>> > have add video to my mood.  So why not a change your  mood text menu 
>> > item?
>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>> > Remove duplicates
>> >  For example in the options dialog there are two places to configure 
>> > sound
>> > and video.  They do the same thing one place for this configuration is
>> > enough.
>> > Another thing is there is an option to set privacy  in the skype menu 
>> > this
>> > can already be done within the options dialog so having this menu 
>> > option is
>> > pointless. I am sure you get the idea.
>>
>>I don't care one way or the other on this, but I suspect
>>business/marketing forces drive where menu items appear sometimes.  I
>>would consider this a low-priority issue.
>>
>> > In the skype menu you have the option called presence.    Short
>> cut again is
>> > p.
>> > And then you have the option called profile,  and guess what the short 
>> > cut
>> > is p.  change presence back to change status. Short cut of s put
>> sign out in
>> > that sub menu where it belongs.
>> > Put change pass word in the profile section where it
>> belong.  Remove the buy
>> > credit  menu option  it is a link in the account section and there for 
>> > not
>> > needed in the skype menu.
>> > Put share skype with a friend in the contacts section.  After all you 
>> > are
>> > sharing it with him in Oder to contact him right?
>>
>>A lot of ideas there, but again, I think we're up against business
>>decisions, and I would not urge high priority on these items.
>>
>> > Rename the tools menu to options.
>> > Rename the options dialog to preferences.
>>
>>I do not think this is a good idea because the existing names have
>>been around for a long time and people are used to them.
>>
>> > More exselorator keys.
>> > Like create new contact control+n.
>> > Preferences control+p.  etc.
>> > Or as I said in the past the ability to set global hot keys and local 
>> > ones.
>> > With defaults set and  turned on.
>>
>>The extra accelerators would be helpful, yes.  To explain local vs.
>>global hotkeys for the benefit of those who never saw that discussion:
>>"Global hotkeys" are what we have now.  "Local hotkeys" would only
>>work when a Skype window is in focus.  I thought this would be too
>>confusing for most users, but I'm forwarding the idea for others to
>>ponder.
>>
>> > Doug take these ideas and forward what you think will be helpful
>> and discard
>> > the rest as usual.
>>
>>Doing so directly.  I will not often do things quite like this, but
>>since I am actually out here with Skype developers in person, it seems
>>to make sense this weekend. :-)  Btw, pardon any typos, I'm typing
>>this over the top of some fairly loud music and conversation.
>>
>>--
>>Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org
>>SSB BART
>>Group           doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com   http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
>>"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them
>>to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for
>>the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>
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