I understand your point, Doug, and it is apparent that this is a script modification which you have made for good reasons. I did not anticipate the unusual behavior and just couldn't get around it however, and the system crashed when I went back in to try to change it. After the message and another restart, I was able to change that key, still without knowing what it is used for. So hopefully all is well without uninstalling/reinstalling the scripts.
Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lee Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:42 PM To: screen access software with skype Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. That long message about needing a JAWS restart is usually caused by either of two things: Unloading and reloading JAWS while Skype is running, or loading and unloading Narrator or another screen reader while JAWS and Skype are both running. Either way though, it's not related to the Verbosity/Options dialog or changing the Command key from within it. I admit the Skype Command key option in Verbosity is an unusual situation, but it's the only Verbosity option these days that lets you enter something directly instead of pulling it from a list. I think it's clear that we would not want to make users try to select the key they want from a huge list of all possible keys, and since international keyboards can vary in ways I've not personally seen, that wouldn't be practical anyway. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:27:57PM -0400, Don and Cher Bosch wrote: With your help I located the extended keyboard option- but it was already turned on by default. When I tried to check JAWS verbosity, I got the following warning: Problem: JAWS and/or Skype Restart Required Skype is unaware that a screen reader is running and is not providing accessibility information, and all attempts to fix this without reloading JAWS or Skype have failed. JAWS and/or Skype must be restarted to fix this problem. Until the below directions are followed, many things will not work correctly in Skype with JAWS. Please close all screen readers, then restart JAWS and see if this corrects the problem. If you have already done this but the problem remains, close and restart Skype. This should not usually be necessary. We are sorry for this inconvenience. Details of the cause of this problem can be found here Press Esc to close this message and return to Skype. Apparently that "Skype command key" can mess things up royally. I cannot really understand why the verbosity acts differently than other JAWS programs- that is, spacebar does not toggle through the available options. Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:30 PM To: 'screen access software with skype' Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. Hi it is in tools not jaws verbosity. If you have made changes and you are unsure how to fix them simply reinstall the scripts after removing them. this should set everything back to defaults as far as jaws is concerned. Like I said the extended keyboard support is found in the skype main windows under tools accessibility hth. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jim Grimsby Junior. Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below methods. Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711. E-mail: JGrimsby at roadrunner.com Windows live messenger: Jim.Grimsby at ATT.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:47 AM To: 'screen access software with skype' Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. I could not locate that option... And I made a mess looking in JAWS verbosity. On the item "Skype command key" I hit spacebar to see what options were there and then JAWS-up arrow to read the option. That combination is now set as the Skype command key and I cannot seem to delete it. Help anyone! Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:13 PM To: screen access software with skype Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. I don't know but I just turn it on and it makes keyboard access to Skype easier. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherh40 at googlemail.com MSN: ch9675 at hotmail.com Yahoo! Messenger: christopherh40 at yahoo.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Klango: chrishallsworth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Don and Cher Bosch" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:21 PM To: "'screen access software with skype'" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. > Can you direct me to something which explains the reference to > extended keyboard navigation and its benefits? Thanks. > > Cher > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com > [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Hallsworth > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:47 AM > To: Jack Lowe; screen access software with skype > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. > > Jack, did you try changing the Skype menus to Windows Classic? Also > did you turn on extended keyboard navigation? This would have made > your experience better in my view. > > -- > Chris Hallsworth > E-mail: christopherh40 at googlemail.com > MSN: ch9675 at hotmail.com > Yahoo! Messenger: christopherh40 at yahoo.com > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > Klango: chrishallsworth > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jack Lowe" <jlowe27 at neo.rr.com> > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:11 AM > To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. > >> I was using Skype 4.1 for a while, but it didn't seem to play nice >> with my JAWS screen reader. Navigating was a pain in the ass and the >> file menus didn't work right most of the time. Maybe in the future >> Freedom Scientific will focus on making changes to JAWS that the >> majority of it's users will actually find useful and benefit from. >> Jack >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "alex wallis" <alexwallis646 at googlemail.com> >> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:28 PM >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] I don't like skype 4.1. >> >> >> Hi. >> lol OK, well I guess the subject says it all I really don't like >> skype 4.1. >> >> I don't mind change, but this interface just looks really weird to me >> there is just so much rubbish on the screen. >> >> I mean for starters in the conversation window where did the nice >> edit box with the history go? >> >> I don't know why they thought this interface would be a good idea. >> >> whoever designed it at skype needs to be shot. >> >> I mean I don't mind change, but seeing as they are providing a few >> customisations to make the 4.1 interface look similar to 3.8 why >> can't they just go the hole way and have something like a skype >> classic interface that looks like 3.8? >> >> I have only been playing with skype for a few minutes, but I really >> don't like it. >> >> I will give it a while longer and then if I still don't get on I will >> revert back to 3.8. >> >> Dug just out of interest, do you feed our comments back to skype >> regarding the interface appearance? >> >> I really don't see what was wrong with the 3.8 interface myself this >> just looks a bit to fancy for me. >> >> its a shame that someone hasn't developed hacks to customise the >> skype interface similar to the ones that exist for other messaging >> clients such as yahoo messenger, msn messenger and windows live messenger. >> >> Just out of complete interest, are the majority of us on list using 4.1? >> or >> have we all stuck with 3.8 apart from a few brave souls? >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >> the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access >> tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> >> >> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, >> go to this link. >> http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >> the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access >> tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> >> >> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, >> go to this link. >> http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for > the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access > tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, > go to this link. > http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for > the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access > tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, > go to this link. > http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com There is more freedom in knowing how to handle pain than in knowing how to avoid it. (4/29/01) Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://free-zg.t-com.hr/hkatic/SWSetup.zip thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
