I feel this is turning out to be a compitision of skype 3.8 and 4.1. From what I understand, that is not what this list is for. This list is to help with the use of skype no matter what version anyone is using. Sorry for my roodness, but that is just how I feel.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smeader Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:01 AM To: screen access software with skype Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype Interphaseandfeature changes Yeah I totally agree with you there! Why change something like skype 3.8.188 which is totally accessible to all screenreaders and then decide to change it? that's absolutely stupid and rediculus! If the skype developers want to change things around they should think of people who sometimes find their upgrades inaccesssible because they don't think of how we use skype and so I say that the developers should try using their latest version of skype with thir eyes closed! Then maybe they'll get the drift! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikos Demetriou" <[email protected]> To: "'screen access software with skype'" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype Interphaseandfeature changes > Hi Doug. > I agree skype 4.1 is very accessible and usable with jaws and your > scripts. > You did a very good job and I think in some kaces you did skype's job for > them. > Skype clames that it is accessible but how can it be accessible if it > works > with some screen readers and it doesn't work with others? > With nvda for example when you right click a contact the menus don't > speak. > I think if a developer made its software trully accessible it wouldn't > matter if you used it with jaws or narator. It would still work fine. > But for now I can tell you atleast two screen readers where skype 4.1 has > problems. These are nvda and hal. > So skype 3.8 needs to be there for us who don't use jaws as a primary > screen > reader. > As I said I think you are doing a great job and I think it is skype that > doesn't do things right and not you. Skype 3.8 was really accessible with > all screen readers and they shouldn't change it. > Nikos > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Lee > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:48 PM > To: JardataMailServices; screen access software with skype > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype Interphase > andfeature changes > > I honestly don't think Skype 4.1 is harder to use, just different. > Skype 3.8 still works in many places but is no longer supported with > updates > to scripts or Skype itself. I therefore consider Skype 3.8 an emergency > backup plan more than a current alternative. > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:43:10AM -0800, JardataMailServices wrote: > Hello List! > > You know, I have no problem with Skype changing their interphase and/or > features; however, I am not yet convinced that they have made the program > better for its blind users. For example, all I do with Skype is make > contact calls and/or phone calls; use the history feature to do the same > kind of thing; and send tons of text/sms messages. 41 makes these simple > tasks more difficult and unnecessarily difficult. Skype is fast making > this > product unusable for Blind people. I find this to be the case in many > products of today: companies have great accessible products and, for some > reason, they mess it up. Skype can improve their product without totally > changing the interphase or making it so difficult and complex to use. > > Anyway, I have gone back to Skype 41 for another try, but will abandon it > totally if I am convinced 38 works in W7 and will continue to work in W7 > for > the distant feature. If I have to use 41, I will, but I hope it will > continue to improve and not continue to become more unusable. > > I like Skype and use it a lot, so I am hoping it will be useful for me in > the feature. > > Take care everyone and have a nice day. > > James Robinson& > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access > tutorials > and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to > this link. > http://bit.ly/1XIpzq > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you to do > in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is not in > vain." --Helen Keller > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access > tutorials > and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to > this link. > http://bit.ly/1XIpzq > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to > this link. > http://bit.ly/1XIpzq > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://bit.ly/1XIpzq and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4611 (20091116) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4611 (20091116) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://bit.ly/1XIpzq and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
