Hi Doug!

Thanks for mentioning skctl. I did start to install that a while back and it is a project I need to get back to. It sounds like some useful functions are on the horizon there, but release when you can be confident with it.

Can I now bring this back around to what it was about in the first place? It isn't about adding people, though admittedly that is relevant. This is about the difficulties in the initial organisation of the conference that seems to have been lost.

Cheers,'
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Conferencingwith Skype4.2.0.141andrunningJaws11.0.756 with Scripts 42A


Actually I think the 4.1 and 4.2 interface is fine, though admittedly
quite different than 3.  In particular, it is very nice that in Skype
4, a person whose connection to a conference drops can dial back in
and rejoin without the host having to answer the call.  This works as
long as the voice conference remains active.  If the host doesn't want
someone reconnecting, the host can kick that person out; so there is
not a security problem, just a lot of convenience for people with
flaky Internet connections.  It is also easy to redial an entire group
with one click in Skype 4.  Regarding the re-adding of dropped people,
once you realize there's a Call button beside each disconnected
participant's name, it isn't that hard to understand intuitively how
to manage the conference.

Skctl, by the way, is becoming able to manage conferences also.  The
version I'm currently testing before release can join incoming calls
to make a conference, create a conference from scratch, add Skype
contacts and even phone numbers to a conference, and should be able to
take a held call and add it to a conference without requiring a
disconnect first.  All of this is done with three commands: Join,
Call, and Add.  Additionally, you can hang up, and even hold and
resume, individual conference members.  I don't know if Skype itself
allows you to hold/resume individual participants.  Ironically though,
Skctl currently does not provide a way to put the whole conference on
hold with one command.  I may get to fix that before the next release,
time will tell.  For anyone who doesn't already know, Skctl is a
command-line Skype interface, and as such, is probably mostly of
interest to those among us that are accustomed to command lines.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:03:56AM -0800, Sarah alawami wrote:
All in all that interface is terrible !  Those who remember em tryingto do
the tutorial on conferenceing might remember that I had loads of trouble
inviting someone back in.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michele Barbi
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:14 AM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Conferencing with
Skype4.2.0.141andrunningJaws11.0.756 with Scripts 42A

Hello all,
I will re-paste a message which Doug posted some time ago and which I saved
on a secure position because it surely could be useful and not only for me
from what I am seeing. It's referred to Skype 4.1 which I am currently
using, and procedures work ok for me. Skype 4.2 beta users, test these.
Bye!
Barbuz
******************
Ok, I have finally gotten round to testing conferencing in Skype 4.1, and I have not encountered any problems, though I'm not sure how many people know
how to do everything related to conferencing in Skype 4.1.

For reference, and for anyone to add to, improve upon, or just learn from,
here are the ways I manage conferences in Skype 4.1:

To create a conference by adding an outgoing call to an existing call:
Use Invite To Conference instead of Call when calling the second person.

To add an incoming call to a conference (directions courtesy of Roger
Cusson):  Press Ctrl+3 for the Live Conversations List, then Home for the
incoming call, then Applications, then choose Invite To Conference.

To drop a specific member from a conference, or to re-add one who has
dropped:  Find the participant list, which I do with a double Ctrl+6 and
then a few tabs until I hit a listItem.  Then use arrows to select the
contact you want, and tab until you hit End Call if you're dropping, or Call
if you're adding.  Hit Space to activate the button.
Note that depending on your profile layout, you may need to use up/down
arrows or left/right arrows to move among contacts in the participant list.

To eject someone from the conference, which is different than just dropping the call to that person: Same process of finding the participant, but then
instead of tabbing to find Call or End Call, RouteJAWSToPC and right click
for a Context menu. The last option, quickly reachable with an UpArrow, is
Remove from Conversation.  This will remove the person from both the call
and the text chat, and also from the participant list.  If you know the
person's Skype ID by heart, a very quick alternative is to go to the chat
input window for the conference and type /kick <id>, where <id> is the Skype
ID.
Notice the slash in front of "kick."

To hold, resume, or hang up the entire conference, or to mute or unmute your
microphone:  Select the appropriate item from the Call menu.

If anyone has better methods for any of those, or things I left out, or
problems with all this, please write back to the list so we can work out a
complete system.  I'm doing this because so many people have remarked on
having trouble conferencing in Skype 4.


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To access tutorials and other goodies go to
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