It's a tough call. I've laid this out before but maybe across more than one messsage, so I'll do it again here and see what people think.
Without Skype changing something, we have three choices. I will outline them below, but keep in mind that, when I refer to "lists," they include contacts, conversations, and history. I can not reliably tell which one is active, so any of the below choices will necessarily apply to them all. 1. Report an accurate count of list entries. This can be done but will be slow on moderately large lists. This means, for example, that it could take a second or more per arrow key in history or a large contact list. I now use a fast machine, and in a contact list of 178 entries, it does take about one second from when I hit an arrow, PageUp/Down, Home, or End key until I get a response. During that time, my machine is busy enough to concern me that it might impair call quality. This is if I run code that will provide an accurate list count in the cases I've seen. I just did that test now while writing this, using JAWS 11 latest release and Skype 4.2.0.163. The time taken should grow linearly, so a history list with 1000 items should take over five seconds per keystroke on this machine. 2. Avoid reporting counts altogether. This avoids confusion but deprives us of even a ballpark figure on how big a list is. Personally, I strongly prefer having some general idea over having none at all. 3. Leave things as they are. I've done this so far because it's the fastest, performancewise, and still gives us an idea of how many items are in a list. The lists reorganize themselves as you move through them, so solutions I usually use, like counting the buttons and subtracting them from the rest, still would require me to examine all items each time you hit an arrow key. The Skype API does not even solve this problem, because although it can count contacts, I'm not sure it can count history or conversation list items, and in any case it can't tell whether you have, for example, hidden offline contacts or contacts not sharing details, etc. Finally, I have considered adding the word "about" to the counts, for example, "5 of about 25." This still wouldn't fix the fact that "5" itself may be wrong, and any language that tries to address that would, in my opinion, add more wordiness than clarity. :) So the plan currently remains to stay with option 3, unless someone, or someones, convince me otherwise. I'm not trying to be stubborn here; I just think it's the best option we have, and absent proof to the contrary, I think I've made a good case for it. I actually tried some tricks this morning to get a faster result without sacrificing accuracy, by making JAWS do some of the calculating internally instead of leaving it to a script, but to my surprise, it wasn't any faster that way either. On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 03:13:55AM -0700, jim grimsby Jr. wrote: hi, for your first problem did you make sure you picked up the conversation with the space bar. otherwise the window will not be seen. as far as your index issue this is a Skype thing. your not missing anything Skype is just reporting the wrong index count. once again Doug if there is no way to get index counts right this really should be removed. all it is doing is confusing people. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Yvonne Oliver" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:56 AM To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> Subject: [Skypeenglish] voicemail >hello >i managed to do what jinn said and for a while i read voicemail on >the computer >today not so lucky >when i press control 5 it said window not visible or something like that >also i found 2 contacts in conversations and it said 5 and 6 of 7 >i cant find the other 5 any idea where they would be? > >also how do i remove someone from recently closed conversations? > >one last thing for now why cant i delete history it says save >history for 14 days surely after 14 days the history should delete >automatically > >Yvonne >-------------- next part -------------- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2846 - Release Date: >04/30/10 18:27:00 >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. 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