On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 04:09:17AM +1100, Tateru Nino wrote: > Actually, I think one of my two points earlier was that this list is > weighted specifically towards those involved in viewer development or > whom have a keen interest in that, and - as such - doesn't seem like an > appropriate or representative forum at all for the topic.
I agree that this list is about the viewer, and therefore the script limits discussion doesn't "belong" here: we have no say or influence on the server code or protocol. I disagree what I speak as scripter. I speak solely as private estate owner; I also am sure that most sim owners don't have the technological background to understand that they are close to being ripped off again and fight for themselves, so I feel I do not only speak for myself, but for all those "users" that are sim owners. > Surely, there must be some more inclusive way to have a discussion about > this - if discussion it actually be. For the most part it just looks > like a whole bunch of folks (and admittedly, quite nice folks in the > main. I'm not singling anyone out, and especially not you, Lillian) who > want to get their two-cents worth heard by Linden Lab developers, and > who don't seem to have any other avenue for doing so. For me, if anywhere you got the feeling I was being mad, frustrated and not being very constructive... then that is correct. I have given up the hope to actually get through to Lindens. The only thing left is powerless frustration. If the Lindens were reasonable and ACTUALLY went into a discussion, open to technical arguments and reasoning, then we could have really talked about this in a mature and professional way; and together have designed a better system. But hey, I'm just a stupid open source VIEWER coder, and they are the Server Gods... Did you note what Babbage all posted to the forum? Two posts. One "replies" to specific issues with a one-liners stating his own unbendable ideas. There is no discussion there. Same here; with the exception of Kelly who has been the only Linden that actually came with data and info and who actually has reacted in a personal way to people (also in a few posts in the forum), but who unfortunately seems to think that there is nothing wrong with fixed limits, so no help from that side :( (my respect for him though, for treating us as human beings ;). > Heck, just doing a quick count of messages, the topic would carry its > own mailing list at this rate, and free this one up for - you know - > talking about the viewer again. :) My main concern, after every change LL makes up, is how to leave SL as soon as possible... Or to think of what is necessary to make that a good alternative :( Working on the viewer gets a bit lower priority when the fun in-world is disappearing. The world is sooo much more empty than a year ago :/ -- Carlo Wood <ca...@alinoe.com> _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/SLDev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges