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Hi Red Dawn,

To be frank I am not hired nor doing marketing for them and neither do
I get commission from them in any manner. Even if I do get hosting
accounts for them I still DO NOT earn anything. What I meant by
marketing is I am marketing The Singapore Linux Portal via HWZ as I
think SLP owe them alot of appreciation for what they have offered us.
My intentions of assisting them to get more accounts is purely from a
business point of view.

More $$$ for HWZ means a faster line, a faster machine and more
diskspace for everyone with backup solutions and etc etc!

If you are not happy with them, why do you host your "sg-gaming.com"
there??? Shooting yourself on the leg uh???

Well, I am open to discussions and I like the way that you think but
toungue lashing will get us no-where. I hope to meet you in person and
we can discuss this as gentlemen and put on paper the pros and cons of
hosting SLP on HWZ.

As I have mentioned, I do not like to co-host SLP on HWZ but
circumtances have forced us to do so. I am now talking to Compaq and
they have agreed to sponsor us a Compaq ALPHA server on a 500MHz CPU
(could be dual-processor), 1GB RAM and maybe around 100GB of PURE
UW-SCSI Hdds!!!

With Cyberway's sponsor to let us park our SLP server in their server
farm, I think our SLP server is complete :)

Now let's start being productive.

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Moonshi Mohsenruddin
Technical Manager, Telford Solutions Pte Ltd
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Tel     :+65 4543118    Fax:+65 4540089
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Red
> Dawn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 12:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLP] Re: Linux Shell's Forum
>
>
> Hi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Moonshi Mohsenruddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [SLP] Re: Linux Shell's Forum
>
>
> > Red Dawn, how unhappy you are right now did not justify your
toungue
> > lashing towards HWZ. Did they stepped on your tail lately? What is
> > wrong with you?
>
> I will deliberately leave the quoted part of my original mail
> below so that
> you can re-read it to find out what's wrong with HWZ. Simply
> look beyong the
> sacarsm in the mail and you may catch a glimpse of their
> working model. In
> case you don't know (I don't think you do), I happen to know Jackie
> *personally* and good friends with certain members inside their
> team. I was
> invited, under similar circumstances, to join HWZ and have my
> site hosted by
> HWZ. (Singularity at http://www.sg-gaming.com) Our 2 sites have
> a history
> going back when we were both hosted by Singapore ONE.
>
> Without going into too much details (Raymond will jump on me if i do
;))
> let's just say I have more insight into their working model,
> their business
> practices and their plans and concluded that they are contrary
> to the spirit
> of Linux. And I do believe I possess certain documents (through
> no unfair or
> foul means) about HWZ which will be the Halloween equivalent of the
> documents that were leaked from Microsoft Corp and made public
> by the Linux
> community as a anti-microsoft bashing tool. I won't show it to
anyone
> (actually i'm not the only one who has it) though but you get
> the idea. They
> ARE Microsoft in spirit, if not as rich ;)
>
> I can stop the tongue lashing but I remain as adamantly opposed
> to working
> with them as before.
>
> Btw I understand that you are working with HWZ as some kind of
marketing
> agent?
>
> Red Dawn
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ UIN: 384804
> Producer, Singularity Gaming Network
> http://www.sg-gaming.com
> Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
>
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > i'm so happy for SLP. We're all going to be eaten up by lame ass
> > zone.
> > > Woohoo.....
> > >
> > > So when is our website going to be integrated into lame ass
> > > zone? do we have
> > > to follow their site design in a similar fashion? You need to
tell
> > the
> > > designers early so that they can implement any changes
necessary!!
> > Do we
> > > need to adopt their corporate logo as well??
> > >
> > > do we serve their ads? do we get to keep part of the ad money?
> > > do they have
> > > editorial control now over our articles? We need to know, cos
> > > then we can
> > > avoid writing stuff that is detrimental to their sponsors and
> > prevent
> > > offending them!!
> > >
> > > Also when we post to OUR site forum which is OWNED by THEM, we
> > > will all need
> > > to watch our tongues, for we cannot say anything that is
detrimental
> > to
> > > their site, nor can we say anything offending to their
> > > sponsors, We have to
> > > avoid pointing readers to other sites as well, even if those
said
> > sites
> > > provide quality content for our readers!
> > >
> > > oh raymond pls dun keep us in suspense. tell us everything we
> > > need to know
> > > so that we can get ready for the acquisition. Or rather, so
> > > that we can get
> > > ready to be acquired.
>
>
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