Moonshi Mohsenruddin wrote:

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> Hi Red Dawn,
>
> To be frank I am not hired nor doing marketing for them and neither do
> I get commission from them in any manner. Even if I do get hosting
> accounts for them I still DO NOT earn anything. What I meant by
> marketing is I am marketing The Singapore Linux Portal via HWZ as I
> think SLP owe them alot of appreciation for what they have offered us.

Yes, but there is a limit to how much we can support them
technically. We will only provide consultation service for them
and have no part in their working. Setting up everything for
them was good enough, that kind of service costs thousands
of dollars.

> My intentions of assisting them to get more accounts is purely from a
> business point of view.
>
> More $$$ for HWZ means a faster line, a faster machine and more
> diskspace for everyone with backup solutions and etc etc!
>
> If you are not happy with them, why do you host your "sg-gaming.com"
> there??? Shooting yourself on the leg uh???

sg-gaming.com is NOT hosted on the server.

> Well, I am open to discussions and I like the way that you think but
> toungue lashing will get us no-where. I hope to meet you in person and
> we can discuss this as gentlemen and put on paper the pros and cons of
> hosting SLP on HWZ.
>
> As I have mentioned, I do not like to co-host SLP on HWZ but
> circumtances have forced us to do so. I am now talking to Compaq and
> they have agreed to sponsor us a Compaq ALPHA server on a 500MHz CPU
> (could be dual-processor), 1GB RAM and maybe around 100GB of PURE
> UW-SCSI Hdds!!!
>
> With Cyberway's sponsor to let us park our SLP server in their server
> farm, I think our SLP server is complete :)
>
> Now let's start being productive.
>
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> Moonshi Mohsenruddin
> Technical Manager, Telford Solutions Pte Ltd
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Red
> > Dawn
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 12:09 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [SLP] Re: Linux Shell's Forum
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Moonshi Mohsenruddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [SLP] Re: Linux Shell's Forum
> >
> >
> > > Red Dawn, how unhappy you are right now did not justify your
> toungue
> > > lashing towards HWZ. Did they stepped on your tail lately? What is
> > > wrong with you?
> >
> > I will deliberately leave the quoted part of my original mail
> > below so that
> > you can re-read it to find out what's wrong with HWZ. Simply
> > look beyong the
> > sacarsm in the mail and you may catch a glimpse of their
> > working model. In
> > case you don't know (I don't think you do), I happen to know Jackie
> > *personally* and good friends with certain members inside their
> > team. I was
> > invited, under similar circumstances, to join HWZ and have my
> > site hosted by
> > HWZ. (Singularity at http://www.sg-gaming.com) Our 2 sites have
> > a history
> > going back when we were both hosted by Singapore ONE.
> >
> > Without going into too much details (Raymond will jump on me if i do
> ;))
> > let's just say I have more insight into their working model,
> > their business
> > practices and their plans and concluded that they are contrary
> > to the spirit
> > of Linux. And I do believe I possess certain documents (through
> > no unfair or
> > foul means) about HWZ which will be the Halloween equivalent of the
> > documents that were leaked from Microsoft Corp and made public
> > by the Linux
> > community as a anti-microsoft bashing tool. I won't show it to
> anyone
> > (actually i'm not the only one who has it) though but you get
> > the idea. They
> > ARE Microsoft in spirit, if not as rich ;)
> >
> > I can stop the tongue lashing but I remain as adamantly opposed
> > to working
> > with them as before.
> >
> > Btw I understand that you are working with HWZ as some kind of
> marketing
> > agent?
> >
> > Red Dawn
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ UIN: 384804
> > Producer, Singularity Gaming Network
> > http://www.sg-gaming.com
> > Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
> >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > i'm so happy for SLP. We're all going to be eaten up by lame ass
> > > zone.
> > > > Woohoo.....
> > > >
> > > > So when is our website going to be integrated into lame ass
> > > > zone? do we have
> > > > to follow their site design in a similar fashion? You need to
> tell
> > > the
> > > > designers early so that they can implement any changes
> necessary!!
> > > Do we
> > > > need to adopt their corporate logo as well??
> > > >
> > > > do we serve their ads? do we get to keep part of the ad money?
> > > > do they have
> > > > editorial control now over our articles? We need to know, cos
> > > > then we can
> > > > avoid writing stuff that is detrimental to their sponsors and
> > > prevent
> > > > offending them!!
> > > >
> > > > Also when we post to OUR site forum which is OWNED by THEM, we
> > > > will all need
> > > > to watch our tongues, for we cannot say anything that is
> detrimental
> > > to
> > > > their site, nor can we say anything offending to their
> > > > sponsors, We have to
> > > > avoid pointing readers to other sites as well, even if those
> said
> > > sites
> > > > provide quality content for our readers!
> > > >
> > > > oh raymond pls dun keep us in suspense. tell us everything we
> > > > need to know
> > > > so that we can get ready for the acquisition. Or rather, so
> > > > that we can get
> > > > ready to be acquired.
> >
> >
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