On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Chris Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Soh Kam Yung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > (http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/5-reasons-to-avoid-iphone-3g)
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Note: 'free' below means 'free speech', not 'free beer'.  Apparently,
>> > you cannot write a GPL'd application for the iPhone (rumour?).
>> > =====
>> > 5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G
>> > Submitted by johns. on 2008-07-10 09:26 PM. Community
>> >
>> > The 5 real reasons to avoid iPhone 3G:
>> >
>> >    * iPhone completely blocks free software. Developers must pay a
>> > tax to Apple, who becomes the sole authority over what can and can't
>> > be on everyone's phones.
>>
>> Probably true. Though a compelling counterargument is that Apple wants
>> to maintain the standards of iPhone at a high level, thus having such
>> rights allow Apple to eliminate trash application. I'm not sure about
>> all these 'tax' thing, what I know is that the level of penetration of
>> iPhone 3G is gonna be pretty high soon enough that many companies
>> would start writing software for iPhone 3G.
>
> Bazaar, vs Cathedral. User control, vs MNC (or centralized entity) control.
> So it's good enough that "many companies" will be able to write software for
> the iphone?

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter either way for Apple, people are
still gonna flock to them; developers and users.

>>
>> >    * iPhone endorses and supports Digital Restrictions Management
>> > (DRM) technology.
>>
>> Don't buy music! Download pirated, DRM-free for free (kidding!).
>> AFAIK, Apple Music Store is moving away from DRM. You can take it this
>> way, you can't play any DRM-ed songs at non-DRM-compatible music
>> player (e.g. FreeRunner), but with iPhone, you could play both. It's
>> now up to you (as in 'free speech') to decide what type of music do
>> you buy.
>
> "you can play both" also means you're buying something that supports it.
> Says in the link that the iphone wont play non-drm formats. You're saying it
> can? Is this after it's unlocked (or whatever)? Or which formats are you
> specifically talking about that are non-DRM that it can play?

mp3, aac (not all aac is DRM-ed); that's what I've already seen with
my own eyes. Apple website states: Audio formats supported: AAC,
Protected AAC, MP3, MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 1, 2, and 3), Apple
Lossless, AIFF, and WAV; seems that the writer of the article does not
do his research.

>
>
>>
>> >    * iPhone won't play patent- and DRM-free formats like Ogg Vorbis and
>> > Theora.
>>
>> Gosh. Ogg Vorbis, it has been ages since I heard of that format. It
>> begs the questions: does it affect you? After all, iPhone is not a
>> swiss army knife. (:
>
> I guess it's a case of different beliefs/priorities here? I may care about
> global warming - even though it doesn't really affect me all that much at
> this point in time. I'm not sure about the iphone being a swiss army knife.
> Perhaps not - but you buy what you want to. You don't buy what you do not
> want to.

Sure. That's 'free speech', isn't it? I never ever ask you to buy an
iPhone. I may persuade you if you were my close friends, but I'm
usually not a good salesman anyway. Saying something is bad because
you don't want to buy it is not cool, especially when it's so
one-sided (it happens all the time though, which is why university
nowadays give critical thinking lesson; politics is one of the worst
battleground ><)

>
>>
>> >    * iPhone is not the only option. There are better alternatives on
>> > the horizon that respect your freedom, don't spy on you, play free
>> > media formats, and let you use free software -- like the FreeRunner.
>>
>> Yeah, that's definitely true. But I'm still gonna get an iPhone 3G
>> when I'm back in Singapore. It's a good piece of hardware with
>> well-tailored OS and UI. (: Plus I'm an Apple whore anyway. It has the
>> closest OS to UNIX I could get that also has amazingly good UI. It
>> also has some of the best hardware and customer support around.
>
> -jf
>
> --
> In the meantime, here is your PSA:
> "It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not
> help."
> -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
>

Cheers,

-- 
Chris
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