On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Chris Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Chris Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Soh Kam Yung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > (http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/5-reasons-to-avoid-iphone-3g) > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Note: 'free' below means 'free speech', not 'free beer'. Apparently, > >> > you cannot write a GPL'd application for the iPhone (rumour?). > >> > ===== > >> > 5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G > >> > Submitted by johns. on 2008-07-10 09:26 PM. Community > >> > > >> > The 5 real reasons to avoid iPhone 3G: > >> > > >> > * iPhone completely blocks free software. Developers must pay a > >> > tax to Apple, who becomes the sole authority over what can and can't > >> > be on everyone's phones. > >> > >> Probably true. Though a compelling counterargument is that Apple wants > >> to maintain the standards of iPhone at a high level, thus having such > >> rights allow Apple to eliminate trash application. I'm not sure about > >> all these 'tax' thing, what I know is that the level of penetration of > >> iPhone 3G is gonna be pretty high soon enough that many companies > >> would start writing software for iPhone 3G. > > > > Bazaar, vs Cathedral. User control, vs MNC (or centralized entity) > control. > > So it's good enough that "many companies" will be able to write software > for > > the iphone? > > What I'm saying is it doesn't matter either way for Apple, people are > still gonna flock to them; developers and users. > Thanks for that clarification (in which case, we've been talking on 2 wavebands here). The article was written for the consumer: why _not_ to get the iphone. So your point wasnt really a counterargument then (in which case, I would agree with you for Apple - it doesnt matter in some sense. Bad for freedom advocates, good for Apple...) > > >> > >> > * iPhone endorses and supports Digital Restrictions Management > >> > (DRM) technology. > >> > >> Don't buy music! Download pirated, DRM-free for free (kidding!). > >> AFAIK, Apple Music Store is moving away from DRM. You can take it this > >> way, you can't play any DRM-ed songs at non-DRM-compatible music > >> player (e.g. FreeRunner), but with iPhone, you could play both. It's > >> now up to you (as in 'free speech') to decide what type of music do > >> you buy. > > > > "you can play both" also means you're buying something that supports it. > > Says in the link that the iphone wont play non-drm formats. You're saying > it > > can? Is this after it's unlocked (or whatever)? Or which formats are you > > specifically talking about that are non-DRM that it can play? > > mp3, aac (not all aac is DRM-ed); that's what I've already seen with > my own eyes. Apple website states: Audio formats supported: AAC, > Protected AAC, MP3, MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 1, 2, and 3), Apple > Lossless, AIFF, and WAV; seems that the writer of the article does not > do his research. > :) i would agree. > > > > > > >> > >> > * iPhone won't play patent- and DRM-free formats like Ogg Vorbis > and > >> > Theora. > >> > >> Gosh. Ogg Vorbis, it has been ages since I heard of that format. It > >> begs the questions: does it affect you? After all, iPhone is not a > >> swiss army knife. (: > > > > I guess it's a case of different beliefs/priorities here? I may care > about > > global warming - even though it doesn't really affect me all that much at > > this point in time. I'm not sure about the iphone being a swiss army > knife. > > Perhaps not - but you buy what you want to. You don't buy what you do not > > want to. > > Sure. That's 'free speech', isn't it? Right. Of course. But we still need people to point it out for people who arent aware (thanks, Kam Yung). > I never ever ask you to buy an > iPhone. I may persuade you if you were my close friends, but I'm > usually not a good salesman anyway. Saying something is bad because > you don't want to buy it is not cool, especially when it's so > one-sided (it happens all the time though, which is why university > nowadays give critical thinking lesson; politics is one of the worst > battleground ><) > actually, no. I wont buy it cos it's bad. -jf -- In the meantime, here is your PSA: "It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not help." -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
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