I second that vote!!! (and quickly, btw) Dino
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark P. Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: [smartBridges] watchdog vote > I am very interested in this capability. > > Just adding my vote. > > > Sully > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > I can see where it would not be a bad idea to put it on both the app and > the > airbridge. Even though it seems the app does not have these problems it > would not hurt to have a watchdog there in case of that 3a.m. problem > that > can be fixed by this. Most customers would not even notice it needed > rebooted. As long as it is a selectable option it couldnt hurt anything. > You > could take it a step further and allow us to set how many times to > attemp > reboot without getting associated and the amount of time it waited to do > it > in between attempts. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brendan O'Bra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:43 AM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > Another .02... > > > > I believe the spirit of the "watchdog reboot" is that "shit > happens"... > > i.e., there are kernel bugs/latch states in the radio ASIC, whatever > > that can't be predicted or were never exposed in testing. The > watchdog > > accepts this and attempts to provide a last ditch attempt at fixing. > > > > Also (and I'm no expert)... I think it' s based on no data (and not > lack > > of association) because the logic is much easier (just check a buffer) > > and it can therefore be checked by a timer or something else that is > not > > so dependent on the kernel (i.e. has a higher probability of working > > with a crashed kernel.) > > > > > > > > > > David Blood wrote: > > > > >Actually I agree with Brendan. One of the units I have to get > replaced > will > > >associate and have excellent signal strength and Quality yet not pass > > >traffic to/Through/past my backhaul. This would be a canidate for a > reboot. > > >(thought taht would not help in this case as a reboot does not fix > the > > >problem.) > > > > > > > > >The power supplys are all wa-12a12u I can plug in a older total and > not > have > > >the problem with the same cable a power supply. > > > > > > > > >Kind Regards, > > > > > >David > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Wong > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:09 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > > > > >Good, this info is helpful. But the logic should better based on if > no > > >association (not Data) for >=5, then reboot. Thanks. > > > > > >Alex > > >sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan O'Bra > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:38 AM > > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > >Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > > > > >FWIW, this is implemented on Lucent (ap500, ap1000,rg1000) hardware > as > > >the "watchdog reboot timer". It has saved our collective a$$ on many > > >occasions. The logic is, "if no data for >=5 minutes, reboot" > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:16 PM > > >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>OK, after so many votes I will put your suggestion to the > development > > >>team for consideration. Thanks for the suggestion. > > >> > > >>Alex > > >>sB Tech Support > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:08 AM > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > >> > > >> > > >>I have 2 units down right now that have been up for weeks and I know > a > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>simple reboot will bring it back online. Have it in the firmware > where > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>it will reboot 3 times thats it. If it doesnt come back after 3 > times > > >>you know there is a bigger problem than just a lockup. If it is a > real > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>hard thing to do then I can understand it. But if it's not that big > of > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>a deal to put this option in there and make it optional then it > would > > >>be a great solution for some of these mystery problems. > > >> > > >>Please consider adding this option. > > >>Jerry > > >> > > >>It just looks better for it to fix itself than to have to call the > > >>user(or then call me) so that I can tell them to power cycle the > unit. > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:16 PM > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>But if there is no signal, the unit keep rebooting??? So it is not > > >>>that simple as what we want it to be. We have to find the roof > cause > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>of the problem and tackle it. It is only a small percent having > such > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>issue and the possibility is either bad power supply or flash > > >>>corruption. > > >>> > > >>>Another area is to look at environment and the installation proper > > >>>especially for outdoor units. Pls see our Ideal Installation Guide. > > >>>http://www.smartbridges.com/new/support/ideal_install.php > > >>> > > >>>Alex > > >>>sB Tech Support > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:42 AM > > >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>I see the same problems. Thats why I suggested they add in the > > >>>firmware that the radio reboot itself after it locks or looses > > >>>signal over 5 min. I know it would help in my situation. Usually a > > >>>simple reboot fixes everything. > > >>> > > >>>Jerry > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: "George M. Walden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:14 PM > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Ditto, on the Ethernet issue w/ sB2100. We have had 3 customers > > >>>>that > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>needed > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>replaced (as of now) 3 times each (total of 9 units).....all flaky > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>units were from the last shipment. Or, should I say, from the > > >>>>first > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>batch of units that made it to the USA from sB's new contract OEM. > > >>>> > > >>>>-George M. Walden > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>on 6/10/03 1:19 PM, Scott Damron at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Yes, > > >>>>>My last one would not see the AP and the ethernet and wireless > > >>>>>lights would go out when you did a search for wireless networks. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>It > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>would see the network when you rebooted, but when you tried to > > >>>>>assoc. it, it would again loose both lights and freeze. > > >>>>>Luckily, we > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>purchased them from electro comm and they RMA'd them without > > >>>>>trouble. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Scott > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Blood > > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:52 AM > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>With my last shipment of sb2100 I am having terrible issues. I > > >>>>>don't > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>believe that it is the configuration as I have set up many of > > >>>>>these and have not had these problems in the past. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Issues. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Ethernet port is flaky. Sometimes it works and sometime it > > >>>>>doesn't. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>No distance is not an issue on the ethernet cable. All case > > >>>>>less than 50 ft and in one case less than 5 ft. It seems to > > >>>>>happen when > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>I > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>make any configuration change. I can power cycle the unit to > > >>>>>get it > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>to come back. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>When I try to use site survey to list availabe APs I get > > >>>>>nothing. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>When it does work then several aps show up. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The air bridges lose associations and then wil not reassociate > > >>>>>with out a reboot. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Anyone else having these issues with the latest shipments? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Kind Regards, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>David > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: > > >>>>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>(in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > >>>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>smartBridges > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>><yournickname> > > >>>>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > >>>>>unsubscribe > > >>>>>smartBridges) > > >>>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>smartBridges <yournickname> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > >>>>unsubscribe > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>smartBridges) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>(in > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > >>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >>> > > >>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>> > > >>> > > >>smartBridges <yournickname> > > >> > > >> > > >>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > unsubscribe > > >>> > > >>> > > >>smartBridges) > > >> > > >> > > >>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (in > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > >>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >> > > >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >> > > >> > > >smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > > > > >>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > >> > > >> > > >smartBridges) > > > > > > > > >>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (in > > >the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > >smartBridges <yournickname> > > >To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > >smartBridges) > > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > > >To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://198.63.203. > > > > > //Virus Scanned by: AF-Services Networks. //Updated Daily! 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