I think the expense should be relative to the size of the company. For 
a startup WISP with 0-10 customers, I don't believe you can justify 
purchasing a YDI BCU when a Mikrotik or even a Linux or FreeBSD 
configured box will do the job. There's also the AirRoute software 
that I thought I saw on the electro-comm website by SmartBridges which 
has authentication and a bunch of other features...I think that's the 
upcoming Townspot...very anxious to finally see the product.

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> Quality cost money but that's got to be A LOT of quality because I 
saw the
> prices on these once and they were pretty high dollar.
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> Chris
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> From: Jason Keller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I tell you what guys I think that no one still does bandwidth 
shaping as
> good as Net enforcer. I have tried both systems Microtik and Net 
enforcer
> and I think the Net enforcer does a better job. It allows you to see 
what
> your clients are using. What protocols with out knowing this, yes 
you can
> eliminate the kazza, imesh, limewire, and others but what about the 
other
> protocols that they will come up with and are using currently 
without being
> able to graph and monitor it is very difficult to regulate. I know 
its more
> money, but sometimes quality costs money. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Shaping
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> There's no need for them to learn CLI operation.  
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> Pretty much everything of use in Star-OS operates from an ANSI menu 
system.
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> It's not X or windows, but not obscure CLI operations, either, and 
certainly
> hasn't hte overhead that running a gui would.
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> From: phantam <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'>  
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> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:18 AM
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> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Shaping
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> Doesn't that water tight coupler look familiar LOL, Ye I might jkust 
get the
> software then thanks dude, as for staros and mikrotik, its too hard 
to work
> with I don't want to have to teach my techs the cli commands right 
now there
> incompetent as it is
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> Chris
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