Can somone tell me what problems seem to occur when you use the standard transformer with say 200' of cat5? Thanks!! Joe Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "sB Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
> I think it is enough to stay with 18V according to our spec. Going > beyond 18V does not buy you anything extra. > > Alex > sB Tech Support > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan @ Wyoming.com > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:25 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > I would go with 24v so you know there wont be a problem. Alex can't > tell you that because they don't have that in their specs, but we are > doing it just fine. At 310' I would worry about your ethernet > connection though. We use the Motoralo Canopy Power Shot that is 24V > and they use the same pin out as the SB radios. > > Thanks.......Dan > > On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:11:11 -0500 > "Shawn Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok... so if you goto say.... 150 feet... you need to use the 18v... > > but > > would it be better to use the 24v when your nipping at that 310 foot > > mark? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sB Tech Support > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:51 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > Yes I understand some are using higher voltage than 18V, like 24V, > > and > > is working fine and that is the maximum limit I will say. However, > > we > > have to tell you the specification from sB is 18V for cable length > > longer than 50m. > > > > Alex > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan @ > > Wyoming.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:33 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > Just FYI Alex..... > > > > I have been using a Motorola Canopy 24V power shot on my link for > > about 2 months now. I had 3 radio's die at my house before I put > > the > > bigger power supply in. So now the 4 radio has a 24V power supply > > and > > hasn't missed a beat yet. Seems like someone from SB mentioned once > > before to never put anything over 24V which gave us the idea. He > > said > > DO NOT USE A 30V POWER SUPPLY. Anyways my 24V power shot has been > > working great. Only down side is that I can't default the radio > > with > > the Canopy power shot. > > > > Thanks............Dan > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:41:59 +0800 > > "sB Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, the max voltage used is 18V which is stated in > > > http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/ps.php . Using higher > > > voltage > > > of 48V in this case will damage the equipment. > > > > > > Alex > > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell > > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:29 AM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > Which reminds me... Alex.. you never answerd my question... Can the > > > SB's > > > support taking a 48volt DC input? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 22:25 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > Anyone that makes UPS's for datacenters... Triplite.. APC.. Lorain > > > (Their Vortex series)... Lambert.... and about a dozen more... A > > > lot > > > of datacenter equipment is 48v DC powerd... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Westman, > > >Michael > > > (324) > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 21:41 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > Who makes the 48v UPSes? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:35 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > Even cheaper... 12volt car batt, 12 volt charger with a trickle > > > charge > > > capability.... :D > > > > > > But they do make UPS's that spit out 48v DC with a normal utility > > > input... According to the PoE spec's, equipment is suppose to be > > > able > > > to take 12-48volts... But SB would have to comment on if they > > > accually > > > followed the spec's/RFC's.... :D > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Haynes > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 18:30 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > You can make one easy enough. Around $130-180. Look at altronix.com > > > for > > > the 18-24vdc regulator/back/charger module ($45-75) get two 12v 7 > > > amphour ($12 ea) or larger gel-cell or sealed lead-acid batteries > > > and a > > > 1200VA transformer ($60-80) and you are all set. This will charge > > > the > > > batteries and regulate the voltage when AC is normal, back up to > > > batteries when AC fails and should run for 12-14 hours on batteries > > > if > > > you use the 7Ah ones. > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Westman, > > > Michael > > > (324) > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 6:03 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > I just want a 1400 UPS from APC that spits out DC. That way we > > > don't > > > have to power the invertor. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:58 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > These power condition as well... Their not the cheaper UPS's you > > > goto > > > Best Buy and pay $100 bucks for. I have software that I can look > > >at > > > the > > > power level's from the utility, and from the UPS plugs and see the > > > diff. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Haynes > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 17:00 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not pertain to your problem. Haveing an average UPS does > > > not > > > eliminate spikes, surges and some sags. Only ones labled as power > > > conditioning UPSs do that (and the cheaper one don't do it that > > > well). > > > When the average UPS is not on battery backup it acts just like a > > > surge > > > supressor and must be rated to handle the level of noise on your > > > power > > > lines. > > > Just an FYI > > > > > > TO SMARTBRIDGES - Has any testing been done to see how a non-sine > > > wave > > > AC source affects the units? Most UPS produce a modified square > > >wave > > > or > > > sawtooth AC wave and not a pure sine wave. > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:06 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > Kinda sounds like something I came across a few weeks ago.... > > > > > > Here on my desk, I have a aPP. It's always up and running, plugged > > > into > > > a UPS and a network that has everything on a UPS. (so no surges > > > anyplace) Anyway, I upgraded the firmware several several weeks > > > back. > > > (forget when exactly). I got home, plugged in my laptop, slamed in > > > my > > > wireless card... and went no where. I associated just fine, but I > > > couldn't pass any packets. > > > > > > I got into simpleMonitor and looked at the ethernet stats, and it > > > shows > > > packets being sent and recived. I reboot the AP... reassociate... > > > and > > > it passes 3 packets, then dies... I went aroun and around with it > > > with > > > reset's, fact resets, fw reloads... etc etc... for about 2 hours. > > > > > > And after messing with it that long, I finally got it to work > > >again. > > > Kinda screwy if you ask me... something that's been sitting here > > > working > > > for that long then all of a sudden does that... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark P. > > >Sullivan > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:49 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo > > > > > > > > > > > > Well.thought I would keep everyone posted on my numbers. > > > > > > As of last weekend, we went from 30 to 45 units off a single aPPo. > > > I > > > actually have 30 units directly off my head-end aPPo (one of which > > > is > > > the repeater) and 15 more off the repeater. The latest 15 are all > > > airBridges. We are pulling about 1.2 Gig per day through the > > > head-end > > > (500 meg of which is from the repeater clients). > > > > > > 1. I did the bulk update with the latest simpleNMS and changed > > > RTS/CTS and FRAG to 1496 and 100 on all client units (not > > >head-end). > > > This was a pretty cool feature. However, twice within 1 day ALLLL > > > my > > > units lost association and I had to reboot my head-end aPPo to get > > > them > > > back. So.needless to say, I changed the RTS/FRAG settings back to > > > default. No problems since. > > > > > > 2. I used simpleDeploy to burn ALL new customers. I then hot > > > tested them for a minimum of 24 hours prior to deployment with none > > > of > > > them blinking an eye. Out of the 15 deployed, I have 3 units that > > > are > > > losing association and not getting it back. I have had the > > >customer > > > do > > > a power reset by pulling the plug, factory default reset, etc, > > > etc..but > > > no luck. Oddly enough, one of the 3 units just came back online > > > this > > > morning with no assistance. Pretty darn flakey! Note: all the > > > units > > > could be pinged from the wired side and logged into (but DEAD on > > >the > > > wireless side). Now I am going to go do some climbing and > > > replacing. > > > > > > Side Note: My head-end aPPo which has been online since Dec 25th > > > 2003 is > > > going down hill quick. The symptoms are this: > > > > > > 1. About 3-4 times a week, the unit becomes unresponsive on > > >the > > > Ethernet side while still passing traffic (hard reboot). > > > > > > 2. The RTS/FRAG thing mentioned above really had me shaking in > > > my > > > boots (reset to default). > > > 3. I have been working with sB for a while on this flakey > > >aPPo, > > > and > > > I am now struggling with EC to get a replacement unit before this > > > one > > > dies. > > > > > > I think that sB is awesome. They are VERY responsive and have even > > > phoned me personally to resolve issues. All my units previously > > > deployed are working wonderfully. 3 out of the latest 15 have not. > > > That doesn't look good, but I am sure they are getting to the > > >bottom > > > of > > > it. Maybe it is a bad simpleDeploy release?? > > > > > > > > > Sully > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
