ok... so if you goto say.... 150 feet... you need to use the 18v... but
would it be better to use the 24v when your nipping at that 310 foot mark?

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Yes I understand some are using higher voltage than 18V, like 24V, and
is working fine and that is the maximum limit I will say. However, we
have to tell you the specification from sB is 18V for cable length
longer than 50m.

Alex
sB Tech Support



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Just FYI Alex.....

I have been using a Motorola Canopy 24V power shot on my link for
about 2 months now.  I had 3 radio's die at my house before I put the
bigger power supply in.  So now the 4 radio has a 24V power supply and
hasn't missed a beat yet.  Seems like someone from SB mentioned once
before to never put anything over 24V which gave us the idea.  He said
DO NOT USE A 30V POWER SUPPLY.  Anyways my 24V power shot has been
working great.  Only down side is that I can't default the radio with
the Canopy power shot.

Thanks............Dan


On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:41:59 +0800
"sB Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, the max voltage used is 18V which is stated in
> http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/ps.php . Using higher
> voltage
> of 48V in this case will damage the equipment.
>
> Alex
> sB Tech Support
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> Which reminds me... Alex.. you never answerd my question... Can the
> SB's
> support taking a 48volt DC input?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 22:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> Anyone that makes UPS's for datacenters... Triplite.. APC.. Lorain
> (Their Vortex series)... Lambert.... and about a dozen more...   A
> lot
> of datacenter equipment is 48v DC powerd...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Westman, Michael
> (324)
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 21:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> Who makes the 48v UPSes?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> Even cheaper... 12volt car batt, 12 volt charger with a trickle
> charge
> capability.... :D
>
> But they do make UPS's that spit out 48v DC with a normal utility
> input...   According to the PoE spec's, equipment is suppose to be
> able
> to take 12-48volts...  But SB would have to comment on if they
> accually
> followed the spec's/RFC's....  :D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Haynes
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 18:30
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> You can make one easy enough. Around $130-180. Look at altronix.com
> for
> the 18-24vdc regulator/back/charger module ($45-75) get two 12v 7
> amphour ($12 ea) or larger gel-cell or sealed lead-acid batteries
> and a
> 1200VA transformer ($60-80) and you are all set. This will charge
> the
> batteries and regulate the voltage when AC is normal, back up to
> batteries when AC fails and should run for 12-14 hours on batteries
> if
> you use the 7Ah ones.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Westman,
> Michael
> (324)
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 6:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> I just want a 1400 UPS from APC that spits out DC.  That way we
> don't
> have to power the invertor.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> These power condition as well...  Their not the cheaper UPS's you
> goto
> Best Buy and pay $100 bucks for.  I have software that I can look at
> the
> power level's from the utility, and from the UPS plugs and see the
> diff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Haynes
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 17:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
>
> This does not pertain to your problem. Haveing an average UPS does
> not
> eliminate spikes, surges and some sags. Only ones labled as power
> conditioning UPSs do that (and the cheaper one don't do it that
> well).
> When the average UPS is not on battery backup it acts just like a
> surge
> supressor and must be rated to handle the level of noise on your
> power
> lines.
> Just an FYI
>
> TO SMARTBRIDGES - Has any testing been done to see how a non-sine
> wave
> AC source affects the units? Most UPS produce a modified square wave
> or
> sawtooth AC wave and not a pure sine wave.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
> Kinda sounds like something I came across a few weeks ago....
>
> Here on my desk, I have a aPP.  It's always up and running, plugged
> into
> a UPS and a network that has everything on a UPS. (so no surges
> anyplace)  Anyway, I upgraded the firmware several several weeks
> back.
> (forget when exactly).  I got home, plugged in my laptop, slamed in
> my
> wireless card... and went no where.  I associated just fine, but I
> couldn't pass any packets.
>
> I got into simpleMonitor and looked at the ethernet stats, and it
> shows
> packets being sent and recived.  I reboot the AP... reassociate...
> and
> it passes 3 packets, then dies...  I went aroun and around with it
> with
> reset's, fact resets, fw reloads... etc etc... for about 2 hours.
>
> And after messing with it that long, I finally got it to work again.
> Kinda screwy if you ask me... something that's been sitting here
> working
> for that long then all of a sudden does that...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark P. Sullivan
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:49
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [smartBridges] Now have 45 customers on 1 aPPo
>
>
>
> Well.thought I would keep everyone posted on my numbers.
>
> As of last weekend, we went from 30 to 45 units off a single aPPo.
>  I
> actually have 30 units directly off my head-end aPPo (one of which
> is
> the repeater) and 15 more off the repeater.  The latest 15 are all
> airBridges.  We are pulling about 1.2 Gig per day through the
> head-end
> (500 meg of which is from the repeater clients).
>
> 1.      I did the bulk update with the latest simpleNMS and changed
> RTS/CTS and FRAG to 1496 and 100 on all client units (not head-end).
> This was a pretty cool feature.  However, twice within 1 day ALLLL
> my
> units lost association and I had to reboot my head-end aPPo to get
> them
> back.  So.needless to say, I changed the RTS/FRAG settings back to
> default.  No problems since.
>
> 2.      I used simpleDeploy to burn ALL new customers.  I then hot
> tested them for a minimum of 24 hours prior to deployment with none
> of
> them blinking an eye.  Out of the 15 deployed, I have 3 units that
> are
> losing association and not getting it back.  I have had the customer
> do
> a power reset by pulling the plug, factory default reset, etc,
> etc..but
> no luck.  Oddly enough, one of the 3 units just came back online
> this
> morning with no assistance.   Pretty darn flakey!  Note: all the
> units
> could be pinged from the wired side and logged into (but DEAD on the
> wireless side).  Now I am going to go do some climbing and
> replacing.
>
> Side Note: My head-end aPPo which has been online since Dec 25th
> 2003 is
> going down hill quick.  The symptoms are this:
>
> 1.      About 3-4 times a week, the unit becomes unresponsive on the
> Ethernet side while still passing traffic (hard reboot).
>
> 2.      The RTS/FRAG thing mentioned above really had me shaking in
> my
> boots (reset to default).
> 3.      I have been working with sB for a while on this flakey aPPo,
> and
> I am now struggling with EC to get a replacement unit before this
> one
> dies.
>
> I think that sB is awesome.  They are VERY responsive and have even
> phoned me personally to resolve issues.  All my units previously
> deployed are working wonderfully.  3 out of the latest 15 have not.
> That doesn't look good, but I am sure they are getting to the bottom
> of
> it.  Maybe it is a bad simpleDeploy release??
>
>
> Sully
>
>
>

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