From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phantam
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:02 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
What the hell is it with mikrotik why cant it be standards compliant, try loading it in VMWARE and MS Virtual Server and it crashes both hell MSVS it put into a loop forever till I had 0 ram left LOL. I want to test it on a virtual machine before buying hardware is this an error or something?
EJE any ideas?
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do the Airbridge units now allow PPPoE through?
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08,
2003 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth
hogs
>
> We haven't had any problems
with it and PPPoE.
>
> The
HotSpot clients are logged on via web based login that
> automatically sets up firewall rules to let them onto the
> internet.
>
> For residential clients that have just one computer we
typically
> set them up with PPTP since it's built in
to Windows 98 and above.
>
> For clients with more than one computer, or business customers,
we
> set them up with a Linksys Cable/DSL router and
have it log in using
> PPPoE.
>
> Kevin Summers
> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
>
www.kistech.com
>
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > Sent: Tuesday, July
08, 2003 4:48 PM
> > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re:
[smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > Sounds like it is very
powerful. And cost effective. How does the
PPPoE
> > work with it and clients?
What would be the setup that you would do.. ?
>
>
> > Dennis
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Summers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent:
Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM
> > Subject: RE:
[smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS
Client
> > > and can authenticate user accounts
on your RADIUS server.
> > >
> > > The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want
to do
> > > with routing. It does Source and
Destination NAT, it allows you
> > > to mark
packets so they can be run through specific firewall
> > > filters. It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing,
bandwidth
> > > limiting by profile, HotSpot,
and many more.
> > >
> > > What can I say, I love this software.
> > >
> > > I have it set up on
our network between the internet and the
> > >
wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers
> > > through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot
users
> > > through our RADIUS server, it does
NAT for most of the users,
> > > and routes
static IPs for the business customers.
> >
>
> > > Need it to do more? Add another $10
network card and you've got
> > > another port
to work with.
> > >
> > > Kevin Summers
> > >
KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > >
www.kistech.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > > Sent:
Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject:
Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and
the
> > costs are
>
> > > cheap.
> > > >
> > > > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as
a Radius server,
> > PPPOE, and
> > do
> > > > your bandwidth
management, plus a web proxy all in one box. I have
to
> > > > admit, the 64meg IDE flash
unit is pritty kewl, just wish they
> > > >
made a 40 gig
> > > > version that was as
cheap :) hehehe
> > > >
> > > > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a
backbone router, to
> > seperate
> > > > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web
proxy
> > > > (transparent), and
> > > > radius. Does this do NAT only?
I am waiting to actually
> > route a Class
> > C
> > > > over my
wireless network.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know.
> > >
>
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > > -----
Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mike
Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have the mikrotik software.
Someday I will get around to
figuring
> > it
> > > > out.
> > > > >
> > >
> > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Kevin Summers
> > > > > Sent:
Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM
> > > > >
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a
> > > > > profile for specific types of customers and then
assign each
> > > > > client to their
appropriate profile. It has queues too, but
> >
> > > as you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in
MikroTik
> > > > > are an awesome
feature. It also has a default profile that you
>
> > > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have
clients
> > > > > authenticating on the
wireless through RADIUS they can be assigned
> >
> > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot
service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Summers
> >
> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> >
> > > www.kistech.com
> > > >
>
> > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Dennis
Burgess
>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges]
Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they
answered
for
> >
me.
> > > > > > Currently, you HAVE to
put the users in a QUEUE. Each
> > queue you
can
> > > > limit
> > > > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a
queue for each user.
> > > > > >
Otherwise, if
> > > > > > you say,
they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue.
They
> > are
>
> > > all
> > > > > > sharing
256.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The next version of BriLan due out in
January is going to have
> > > > > >
per MAC or IP
> > > > > > bandwidth
restrictions, plus more than 128 queues. I called
> > > > > > them and they
>
> > > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software
:)
> > > > Inexpensive
> > > > > > solution for up to 128 users :)
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > Dennis
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > ----- Original
Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Eric
Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth
hogs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > I cant wait! :)
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Will we be
able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
Eric
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
tonylist wrote:
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This system is designed as an AP
with bandwidth management
> > > > > >
128 is really
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > sweet spot for this
code. The new version will not have a
> > >
> limit like
> > > > > >
this,
> > > > > > > > plus a
BUNCH of new feature :)
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
Sincerely, Tony Morella
> > > > >
> > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995
Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > >
> > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>-----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > >
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Eric
> > Calkins
> > > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003
3:25 PM
> > > > > > > >>To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the
same
> > > > queue they will
> > > > > > > >>share that
queue. sucky. yeah this version only has 128
> > queues,
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>upgrade will support
256? Tony can confirm.
> > > > >
> > >>
> > > > > > >
>>Eric
> > > > > > >
>>
> > > > > > >
>>
> > > > > > >
>>
> > > > > > >
>>Patrick wrote:
> > > > > >
> >>
> > > > > > >
>>
> > > > > > >
>>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can only
use
> > this
> > > > > > > >>>software to limit up to
128 customers? Since I was under
the
> > > > > > > >>>impression that
you have to put each customer in it's
> > >
> own queue if
> > > > > > >
>>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned to
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>that queue.
> > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>>From: "Eric
Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>Sent: Monday,
July 07, 2003 2:54 PM
> > > > > > >
>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>I guess i dont
understand why the screen in brilan for
> >
bandwidth
> > > > > > >
>>>>shaping is not what you want.
> >
> > > > >
>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>apping.htm
> > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac
address for your subs in its
own
> > > > queue?
> > > >
> > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>eric
> > > > >
> > >>>>
> > > > > >
> >>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>Mike Kelleher wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>
> > > > > >
> >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage. Brilan
can
show
> > > >
overall
> > > > > > >
>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>realtime
> > > > > > >
>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>or usage over extended periods. My understanding is
that
> > > > mikrotik
> > > > > > > >>>>>with
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>mrtg
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>can
break it down to 1 min intervals. That is
>
> close to real
> > > > time.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>Mike
> > > > > >
> >>>>>
> > > > > >
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>
> > > > > > >>>>>From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of
> > > > > > >
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09
AM
> > > > > > >
>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges]
Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > >
>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>Oh hey Tony
> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had
that.
> > > > > > >
>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>Michael
> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>Sent:
Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > >
> > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>To
be 100% its $339 :)
> > > > > > >
>>>>
> > > > > >
>
>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>ain_screen
> > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > > > >>>>>s.htm
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>Sincerely, Tony Morella
> > > > > > > >>>>>>Demarc
Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> >
> > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell:
908-246-9170 Fax:
908-847-0202
> > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com
> >
> > > > > >>>>>>
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>
> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of
Eric
> > >
> Calkins
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>Subject:
Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>
> >
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU
is the same exact thing as brilan software
> >
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >>expect brilan
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>>>eric :)
> >
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
> > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>>Michael
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> *From:* Mike Kelleher
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
*Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE:
[smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>> Is
anyone familiar with a monitoring program
> > >
> which will
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> graphically show
which mac/ip is currently using
> > what
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> bandwidth?
I use Brilan but unfortunately it
only
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>shows what
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> has been used and
an over all current usage.
> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > >
>>>>>>>> Mike
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
> > > > >
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