Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs

[Dennis Burgess]

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Hey I have gotten rid of anything that says a ?86 on it !! Now it is just PIIs and durons.   Dennis   ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Haynes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:03 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs Surely every ISP or computer junky has an old 286 or 386 lying around :-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phantam Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:02 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs What the hell is it with mikrotik why cant it be standards compliant, try loading it in VMWARE and MS Virtual Server and it crashes both hell MSVS it put into a loop forever till I had 0 ram left LOL. I want to test it on a virtual machine before buying hardware is this an error or something? EJE any ideas? Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do the Airbridge units now allow PPPoE through? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > We haven't had any problems with it and PPPoE. > > The HotSpot clients are logged on via web based login that > automatically sets up firewall rules to let them onto the > internet. > > For residential clients that have just one computer we typically > set them up with PPTP since it's built in to Windows 98 and above. > > For clients with more than one computer, or business customers, we > set them up with a Linksys Cable/DSL router and have it log in using > PPPoE. > > Kevin Summers > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > www.kistech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:48 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > Sounds like it is very powerful.  And cost effective.  How does the PPPoE > > work with it and clients?  What would be the setup that you would do.. ? > > > > Dennis > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS Client > > > and can authenticate user accounts on your RADIUS server. > > > > > > The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want to do > > > with routing. It does Source and Destination NAT, it allows you > > > to mark packets so they can be run through specific firewall > > > filters. It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing, bandwidth > > > limiting by profile, HotSpot, and many more. > > > > > > What can I say, I love this software. > > > > > > I have it set up on our network between the internet and the > > > wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers > > > through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot users > > > through our RADIUS server, it does NAT for most of the users, > > > and routes static IPs for the business customers. > > > > > > Need it to do more? Add another $10 network card and you've got > > > another port to work with. > > > > > > Kevin Summers > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and the > > costs are > > > > cheap. > > > > > > > > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as a Radius server, > > PPPOE, and > > do > > > > your bandwidth management, plus a web proxy all in one box.  I have to > > > > admit, the 64meg IDE flash unit is pritty kewl, just wish they > > > > made a 40 gig > > > > version that was as cheap :) hehehe > > > > > > > > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a backbone router, to > > seperate > > > > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web proxy > > > > (transparent), and > > > > radius.  Does this do NAT only?  I am waiting to actually > > route a Class > > C > > > > over my wireless network. > > > > > > > > Let me know. > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the mikrotik software.  Someday I will get around to figuring > > it > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Summers > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a > > > > > profile for specific types of customers and then assign each > > > > > client to their appropriate profile. It has queues too, but > > > > > as you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in MikroTik > > > > > are an awesome feature. It also has a default profile that you > > > > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have clients > > > > > authenticating on the wireless through RADIUS they can be assigned > > > > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot service. > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Summers > > > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > > > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they answered for > > me. > > > > > > Currently, you HAVE to put the users in a QUEUE.  Each > > queue you can > > > > limit > > > > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a queue for each user. > > > > > > Otherwise, if > > > > > > you say, they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue. They > > are > > > > all > > > > > > sharing 256. > > > > > > > > > > > > The next version of BriLan due out in January is going to have > > > > > > per MAC or IP > > > > > > bandwidth restrictions, plus more than 128 queues.   I called > > > > > > them and they > > > > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software :) > > > > Inexpensive > > > > > > solution for up to 128 users :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant wait! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will we be able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tonylist wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This system is designed as an AP with bandwidth management > > > > > > 128 is really > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sweet spot for this code. The new version will not have a > > > > limit like > > > > > > this, > > > > > > > > plus a BUNCH of new feature :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,  Tony Morella > > > > > > > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider > > > > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202 > > > > > > > > http://www.demarctech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric > > Calkins > > > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:25 PM > > > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the same > > > > queue they will > > > > > > > >>share that queue.  sucky.  yeah this version only has 128 > > queues, > > > > the > > > > > > > >>upgrade will support 256?  Tony can confirm. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Eric > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Patrick wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can only use > > this > > > > > > > >>>software to limit up to 128 customers?  Since I was under the > > > > > > > >>>impression that you have to put each customer in it's > > > > own queue if > > > > > > > >>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>that queue. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >>>From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:54 PM > > > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>>I guess i dont understand why the screen in brilan for > > bandwidth > > > > > > > >>>>shaping is not what you want. > > > > > > > >>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>apping.htm > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac address for your subs in its own > > > > queue? > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>eric > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>Mike Kelleher wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage.  Brilan can show > > > > overall > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>realtime > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>>>or usage over extended periods.  My understanding is that > > > > mikrotik > > > > > > > >>>>>with > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>mrtg > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>>>can break it down to 1 min intervals.  That is > > close to real > > > > time. > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>Mike > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > > > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09 AM > > > > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>Oh hey Tony > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had that. > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>Michael > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM > > > > > > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>To be 100% its $339 :) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>ain_screen > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>s.htm > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Sincerely,  Tony Morella > > > > > > > >>>>>>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider > > > > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202 > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric > > > > Calkins > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM > > > > > > > >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU is the same exact thing as brilan software > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>expect brilan > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500 > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>eric :) > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Michael > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *From:* Mike Kelleher > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      Is anyone familiar with a monitoring program > > > > which will > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      graphically show which mac/ip is currently using > > what > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      bandwidth?  I use Brilan but unfortunately it only > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>shows what > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      has been used and an over all current usage. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 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