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Hahahha -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:48 PM To: phantam Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs Chris your really annoying me. Chill the heck out. Just because I answer posts that where written BEFORE I saw you post don't mean you have to write TWO additional e-mails. I'm not here to serve YOU at YOUR pleasure. If your in a hurry to get an answer write me offlist (these lists get my reponses when everything else is done and I have time and feel like answer). You more then once said that you will not use Mikrotik or anything else Linux based and why should I hurry to give you answers when I can't expect to receive any money for you. But sure if you reconsidered and want to test out and maybe purchase and deploy one or more Mikrotik units then I shall consider helping out. But if you start to write multiple e-mails demanding answers before I even had a chance to READ your first one.. Just chill out wait a few minutes to get an answer will NOT kill you. / Eje Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 10:25:37 PM, you wrote: p> Eje whats with microtik and vmware not getting along? p> Chris p> -----Original Message----- p> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:22 PM p> To: Kevin Summers p> You can set bandwidth limits on pppoe also just like with hotspot p> however you can not have it automatically drop the speed when they hit p> their limit without some clever radius accounting. p> Uptime etc can also be controlled by radius even for pppoe. p> Best regards, p> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p> --- p> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com p> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 p> eBay UserID : macahan p> - Your Full Time Professionals - p> Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 8:00:36 PM, you wrote: KS>> The HotSpot service has such limits. You can specify in the KS>> HotSpot profiles to limit by any of, KS>> - Uptime KS>> - Bytes in KS>> - Bytes out KS>> The profiles for PPPoE and PPTP just allow settings like Session KS>> Timeout, Idle Timeout and bandwidth limits for TX and RX. KS>> To catch users that have hit their usage limits you would have to KS>> write something to analyze the logs and notify you when they have KS>> gone over. Then you can manually reassign them to a slower profile. KS>> Kevin Summers KS>> KISTech Internet Services Inc. KS>> www.kistech.com >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:53 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> >>> >>> Opps, forgot to mention. On the bandwidth restrctions, I assume >>> if you are >>> using PPPOE you can throttle by the username. What about limits ? I was >>> wishing to drop the customer to 64k once they hit there gigs per month? >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM >>> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> >>> >>> > >>> > It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS Client >>> > and can authenticate user accounts on your RADIUS server. >>> > >>> > The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want to do >>> > with routing. It does Source and Destination NAT, it allows you >>> > to mark packets so they can be run through specific firewall >>> > filters. It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing, bandwidth >>> > limiting by profile, HotSpot, and many more. >>> > >>> > What can I say, I love this software. >>> > >>> > I have it set up on our network between the internet and the >>> > wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers >>> > through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot users >>> > through our RADIUS server, it does NAT for most of the users, >>> > and routes static IPs for the business customers. >>> > >>> > Need it to do more? Add another $10 network card and you've got >>> > another port to work with. >>> > >>> > Kevin Summers >>> > KISTech Internet Services Inc. >>> > www.kistech.com >>> > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM >>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and the >>> costs are >>> > > cheap. >>> > > >>> > > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as a Radius server, >>> PPPOE, and >>> do >>> > > your bandwidth management, plus a web proxy all in one box. I have p> to >>> > > admit, the 64meg IDE flash unit is pritty kewl, just wish they >>> > > made a 40 gig >>> > > version that was as cheap :) hehehe >>> > > >>> > > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a backbone router, to >>> seperate >>> > > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web proxy >>> > > (transparent), and >>> > > radius. Does this do NAT only? I am waiting to actually >>> route a Class >>> C >>> > > over my wireless network. >>> > > >>> > > Let me know. >>> > > >>> > > Dennis >>> > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > From: "Mike Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM >>> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > I have the mikrotik software. Someday I will get around to p> figuring >>> it >>> > > out. >>> > > > >>> > > > Mike >>> > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers >>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM >>> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a >>> > > > profile for specific types of customers and then assign each >>> > > > client to their appropriate profile. It has queues too, but >>> > > > as you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in MikroTik >>> > > > are an awesome feature. It also has a default profile that you >>> > > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have clients >>> > > > authenticating on the wireless through RADIUS they can be assigned >>> > > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot service. >>> > > > >>> > > > Kevin Summers >>> > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. >>> > > > www.kistech.com >>> > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis p> Burgess >>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM >>> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they answered for >>> me. >>> > > > > Currently, you HAVE to put the users in a QUEUE. Each >>> queue you can >>> > > limit >>> > > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a queue for each user. >>> > > > > Otherwise, if >>> > > > > you say, they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue. They >>> are >>> > > all >>> > > > > sharing 256. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The next version of BriLan due out in January is going to have >>> > > > > per MAC or IP >>> > > > > bandwidth restrictions, plus more than 128 queues. I called >>> > > > > them and they >>> > > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software :) >>> > > Inexpensive >>> > > > > solution for up to 128 users :) >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Dennis >>> > > > > >>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > > From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM >>> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I cant wait! :) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Will we be able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Eric >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > tonylist wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Eric >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > This system is designed as an AP with bandwidth management >>> > > > > 128 is really >>> > > > > the >>> > > > > > > sweet spot for this code. The new version will not have a >>> > > limit like >>> > > > > this, >>> > > > > > > plus a BUNCH of new feature :) >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Sincerely, Tony Morella >>> > > > > > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider >>> > > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202 >>> > > > > > > http://www.demarctech.com >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric >>> Calkins >>> > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:25 PM >>> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the same >>> > > queue they will >>> > > > > > >>share that queue. sucky. yeah this version only has 128 >>> queues, >>> > > the >>> > > > > > >>upgrade will support 256? Tony can confirm. >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>Eric >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>Patrick wrote: >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can only use >>> this >>> > > > > > >>>software to limit up to 128 customers? Since I was under p> the >>> > > > > > >>>impression that you have to put each customer in it's >>> > > own queue if >>> > > > > > >>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned to >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>that queue. >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > > > >>>From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:54 PM >>> > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>>>I guess i dont understand why the screen in brilan for >>> bandwidth >>> > > > > > >>>>shaping is not what you want. >>> > > > > > >>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>apping.htm >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac address for your subs in its p> own >>> > > queue? >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>eric >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>Mike Kelleher wrote: >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage. Brilan can p> show >>> > > overall >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>>realtime >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>or usage over extended periods. My understanding is that >>> > > mikrotik >>> > > > > > >>>>>with >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>>mrtg >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>can break it down to 1 min intervals. That is >>> close to real >>> > > time. >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>Mike >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >>> > > > > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09 AM >>> > > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>Oh hey Tony >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had that. >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>Michael >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM >>> > > > > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>To be 100% its $339 :) >>> > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>ain_screen >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>>>s.htm >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Sincerely, Tony Morella >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202 >>> > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of p> Eric >>> > > Calkins >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU is the same exact thing as brilan software >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>expect brilan >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500 >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>eric :) >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>Michael >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *From:* Mike Kelleher >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Is anyone familiar with a monitoring program >>> > > which will >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> graphically show which mac/ip is currently using >>> what >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> bandwidth? I use Brilan but unfortunately it p> only >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>shows what >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> has been used and an over all current usage. >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mike >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type >>> > > subscribe >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> > > > > > >>>>>>smartBridges) >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > > > > > >>>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body >>> > > type subscribe >>> > > > > > >>>>> >>> > > > > > >>>>>smartBridges <yournickname> >>> > > 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