Yes, agreed, thanks everyone. I know I am new, but I am trying to put back as much as possable.
Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:16 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > I guess we have all been kind of spoiled getting so many good responses and > advice from so many people as quickly as we do. I am on several network and > computer related lists, but I find that I use this one as a default for > almost any question that is rather difficult. I just wanted to say "Great > work everybody!" > > -Tom Haynes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > > Ding - Ding !!! In this corner we have.... > > > Hahahha > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:48 PM > To: phantam > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > > Chris your really annoying me. Chill the heck out. Just because I answer > posts that where written BEFORE I saw you post don't mean you have to write > TWO additional e-mails. > > I'm not here to serve YOU at YOUR pleasure. If your in a hurry to get an > answer write me offlist (these lists get my reponses when everything else is > done and I have time and feel like answer). You more then once said that you > will not use Mikrotik or anything else Linux based and why should I hurry to > give you answers when I can't expect to receive any money for you. But sure > if you reconsidered and want to test out and maybe purchase and deploy one > or more Mikrotik units then I shall consider helping out. > > But if you start to write multiple e-mails demanding answers before I even > had a chance to READ your first one.. Just chill out wait a few minutes to > get an answer will NOT kill you. > > / Eje > > Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 10:25:37 PM, you wrote: > > p> Eje whats with microtik and vmware not getting along? > > p> Chris > > p> -----Original Message----- > p> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:22 PM > p> To: Kevin Summers > > p> You can set bandwidth limits on pppoe also just like with hotspot > p> however you can not have it automatically drop the speed when they > hit > p> their limit without some clever radius accounting. > p> Uptime etc can also be controlled by radius even for pppoe. > > p> Best regards, > p> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> --- > p> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > p> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > p> eBay UserID : macahan > p> - Your Full Time Professionals - > > > p> Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 8:00:36 PM, you wrote: > > > KS>> The HotSpot service has such limits. You can specify in the HotSpot > KS>> profiles to limit by any of, > > KS>> - Uptime > KS>> - Bytes in > KS>> - Bytes out > > KS>> The profiles for PPPoE and PPTP just allow settings like Session > KS>> Timeout, Idle Timeout and bandwidth limits for TX and RX. > > KS>> To catch users that have hit their usage limits you would have to > KS>> write something to analyze the logs and notify you when they have > KS>> gone over. Then you can manually reassign them to a slower profile. > > KS>> Kevin Summers > KS>> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > KS>> www.kistech.com > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:53 PM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > >>> > >>> Opps, forgot to mention. On the bandwidth restrctions, I assume if > >>> you are using PPPOE you can throttle by the username. What about > >>> limits ? > I was > >>> wishing to drop the customer to 64k once they hit there gigs per > month? > >>> > >>> Dennis > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM > >>> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS Client > >>> > and can authenticate user accounts on your RADIUS server. > >>> > > >>> > The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want to do > >>> > with routing. It does Source and Destination NAT, it allows you to > >>> > mark packets so they can be run through specific firewall filters. > >>> > It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing, bandwidth limiting by > >>> > profile, HotSpot, and many more. > >>> > > >>> > What can I say, I love this software. > >>> > > >>> > I have it set up on our network between the internet and the > >>> > wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers > >>> > through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot users > >>> > through our RADIUS server, it does NAT for most of the users, and > >>> > routes static IPs for the business customers. > >>> > > >>> > Need it to do more? Add another $10 network card and you've got > >>> > another port to work with. > >>> > > >>> > Kevin Summers > >>> > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >>> > www.kistech.com > >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis > Burgess > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM > >>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and the > >>> costs are > >>> > > cheap. > >>> > > > >>> > > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as a Radius server, > >>> PPPOE, and > >>> do > >>> > > your bandwidth management, plus a web proxy all in one box. I > have > p> to > >>> > > admit, the 64meg IDE flash unit is pritty kewl, just wish they > >>> > > made a 40 gig version that was as cheap :) hehehe > >>> > > > >>> > > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a backbone router, > to > >>> seperate > >>> > > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web proxy > >>> > > (transparent), and radius. Does this do NAT only? I am waiting > >>> > > to actually > >>> route a Class > >>> C > >>> > > over my wireless network. > >>> > > > >>> > > Let me know. > >>> > > > >>> > > Dennis > >>> > > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > From: "Mike Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM > >>> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I have the mikrotik software. Someday I will get around to > p> figuring > >>> it > >>> > > out. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Mike > >>> > > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin > Summers > >>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM > >>> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a > >>> > > > profile for specific types of customers and then assign each > >>> > > > client to their appropriate profile. It has queues too, but as > >>> > > > you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in > MikroTik > >>> > > > are an awesome feature. It also has a default profile that you > >>> > > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have clients > >>> > > > authenticating on the wireless through RADIUS they can be > assigned > >>> > > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot service. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Kevin Summers > >>> > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >>> > > > www.kistech.com > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis > p> Burgess > >>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM > >>> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they > answered for > >>> me. > >>> > > > > Currently, you HAVE to put the users in a QUEUE. Each > >>> queue you can > >>> > > limit > >>> > > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a queue for each > user. > >>> > > > > Otherwise, if > >>> > > > > you say, they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue. > They > >>> are > >>> > > all > >>> > > > > sharing 256. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > The next version of BriLan due out in January is going to > have > >>> > > > > per MAC or IP > >>> > > > > bandwidth restrictions, plus more than 128 queues. I > called > >>> > > > > them and they > >>> > > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software :) > >>> > > Inexpensive > >>> > > > > solution for up to 128 users :) > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Dennis > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > > > From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM > >>> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I cant wait! :) > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Will we be able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :) > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Eric > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > tonylist wrote: > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Eric > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > This system is designed as an AP with bandwidth > management > >>> > > > > 128 is really > >>> > > > > the > >>> > > > > > > sweet spot for this code. The new version will not have > a > >>> > > limit like > >>> > > > > this, > >>> > > > > > > plus a BUNCH of new feature :) > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Sincerely, Tony Morella > >>> > > > > > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider > >>> > > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: > 908-847-0202 > >>> > > > > > > http://www.demarctech.com > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Eric > >>> Calkins > >>> > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:25 PM > >>> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the same > >>> > > queue they will > >>> > > > > > >>share that queue. sucky. yeah this version only has > 128 > >>> queues, > >>> > > the > >>> > > > > > >>upgrade will support 256? Tony can confirm. > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>Eric > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>Patrick wrote: > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can > only use > >>> this > >>> > > > > > >>>software to limit up to 128 customers? Since I was > under > p> the > >>> > > > > > >>>impression that you have to put each customer in it's > >>> > > own queue if > >>> > > > > > >>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned > to > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>that queue. > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > > > > >>>From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:54 PM > >>> > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>I guess i dont understand why the screen in brilan for > >>> bandwidth > >>> > > > > > >>>>shaping is not what you want. > >>> > > > > > > >>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>apping.htm > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac address for your subs in > its > p> own > >>> > > queue? > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>eric > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>Mike Kelleher wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage. Brilan > can > p> show > >>> > > overall > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>>realtime > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>or usage over extended periods. My understanding is > that > >>> > > mikrotik > >>> > > > > > >>>>>with > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>>mrtg > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>can break it down to 1 min intervals. That is > >>> close to real > >>> > > time. > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Mike > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>> > > > > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09 AM > >>> > > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Oh hey Tony > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had that. > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Michael > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM > >>> > > > > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>To be 100% its $339 :) > >>> > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>ain_screen > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>s.htm > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Sincerely, Tony Morella > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution > Provider > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: > 908-847-0202 > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > p> Eric > >>> > > Calkins > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU is the same exact thing as brilan > software > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>expect brilan > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500 > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>eric :) > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>Michael > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *From:* Mike Kelleher > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Is anyone familiar with a monitoring program > >>> > > which will > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> graphically show which mac/ip is currently > using > >>> what > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> bandwidth? I use Brilan but unfortunately > it > p> only > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>shows what > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> has been used and an over all current usage. > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mike > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body > type > >>> > > subscribe > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > unsubscribe > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>smartBridges) > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body > >>> > > type subscribe > >>> > > > > > 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