Uhm.. I will have to disagree.. If the AP routes then your SOL if you want/need to do some real routing or anything other useful (pppoe server, dhcp server, mac auth control etc) if it's not already IN the AP your SOL. Just give me a AP that bridge and I'll take care of the routing behind it.
I want my desktop computer back... Did the mistake to buy a game for my 3 year old and load it on my desktop.. But I do have my laptop.... Just not as fast as my desktop.. Time to build him his own computer.. grumble.. Wish I had a computer of my own when I was 3... :( / Eje Saturday, July 12, 2003, 11:36:41 PM, you wrote: DB> Call me crazy, but I think I have to agree with this guy. DB> Dave DB> At 09:16 PM 12/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>btw.. one quick rant that's been irritating me (sorry, I've been out in the >>sun all this week trying to fix sb stuff... I've got a N I C E sun burn... >>I'm trying to stay calm) >> >>Don't take this the wrong way.. You guys are great with wireless... but >>you suck with IP networks. 20 years ago bridging a network was the only way >>to do it when you had protocols like DECnet, IPX/SPX, and every other type >>of out dated system (by today's standards). >> >>Cisco has it right.. heck, even Sony has it right... TCP/IP is a ROUTED >>protocol... IPX/SPX has to be a BRIDGED protocol... NetBEUI, Netbios, etc, >>etc, etc have to be a bridged protocol... >> >>I'm very tired of seeing ARP's from one side of the network end up on the >>other side. 80% of the trouble shooting you have to do on wireless networks >>will go away, you'll be able to see where the problem is with a simple >>traceroute... >> >>What I'm getting at... get out of just doing Layer 2.. look at the OSI model >>and step up to the next step. LOOK AT LAYER 3!!!!! When you give something >>an IP address.. it's not the "box", "server", "airbridge", whatever that >>your giving the IP address to.. it's suppose to be the interface that you >>give the ip address to. >> >>So you give the RF interface 192.168.1.24 and the Ethernet interface >>192.168.0.24. Ok, you can still have giving the box only one IP address, >>but make the interface that doesn't get the IP address an >>alias/clone/whatever of the interface that does get the ip address. >> >>If you supported routing... you wouldn't have to care how many MAC addresses >>are behind the APP, or the AB. The AP would never see the MAC's from behind >>the AB. Look at the DOCIS standards. >> >>Remember.... routing = better throughput, better reliability, not having to >>worry about bridged "loops", packet storms, etc, etc, etc, etc... >> >>Bridging = asking for trouble, worrying about loops, not being able to see >>anything between you router and CPE. >> >>Does everyone keep in mind that old rule... remember that your not suppose >>to have more than x number of switches between two nodes... otherwise you >>scream for trouble... >> >>You can go ahead and flame me if you want... I'm tired of having headache's >>of trying to find out where problems are on a BRIDGED network, and trying to >>figure out how to setup some type of routing and not have to worry about >>accidentally creating a bridged loop. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers >>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 16:05 >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Here I come from ETSI land >> >> >> >>Are there any data sheets or any material to read about some >>of the details that will be in Nexus? >> >>Kevin Summers >>KISTech Internet Services Inc. >>www.kistech.com >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nish Park >> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:06 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Here I come from ETSI land >> > >> > >> > With the current radio the range can not be lowered below 11.5dB. >> > For our new hardware platform Nexus due to be released in Q4 it will be >> > possible to do this. >> > >> > Nish >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leszek Olszewski >> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 1:44 AM >> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> > Subject: [smartBridges] Here I come from ETSI land >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > I come from ETSI land and as most of you know we have legal limits of >> > +20dBm EIRP. >> > >> > The question is - is it possible to reduce Smartbridges radio TX power >> > (SB >> > in general, I believe radios used in your devices are equal) down to say >> > >> > +3dBm? By doing this I could use higher gain antena, stay within legal >> > EIRP >> > limit and achieve longer link. >> > >> > Now, I do know that there's dial-a-power which allows regulation down to >> > >> > 11.5dBm. I am also aware that SB units can be managed via generic Atmel >> > SNMP configurator and there you can put hex values for each channel to >> > manipulate TX power. These guys >> > http://www.dcom.cz/docs/wlan/wen2021/vykon2021.htm claim they could >> > drive >> > similiar device down to -8dBm (!). >> > >> > Can someone please confirm or deny this and possibly provide some >> > further >> > explanation why or why not that is possible? >> > >> > I'll appreciate some in-depth technical answer, if possible. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Leszek >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> > smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> > smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> > >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> > smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type >> > unsubscribe smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>smartBridges <yournickname> >>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>smartBridges) >>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>smartBridges <yournickname> >>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>smartBridges) >>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org DB> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List DB> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> DB> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) DB> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
