Guess I'm not clear as to how mac addresses are assigned in a assembly line production 
environment.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Joe Email" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:55:30 -0500

>Duh!!!!!!!!!!!
>Alex this doesn't make sense
>
>This raido gets a bad part, the next radio on the line gets a good part
>
>I certainly do not understand this?
>If the MAC addresses are in a line why wouldn't the bad or good parts be in
>line
>
>Again
>A list would be helpful
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe K
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sB Tech Support
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:26 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] How to identify the suspect devices
>
>
>The list won't be accurate as not all units are affected. If the product
>is purchased during May or June and has the same symptom as per Customer
>Advisory http://www.smartbridges.com/pdf/Customer%20Advisory.pdf , then
>you need to apply the firmware fix. Thanks.
>
>Alex
>sB Tech Support
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:00 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] How to identify the suspect devices
>
>if you have them in a text file format, I can use notepad to search for
>certain mac numbers. We have recv'd some during that time that work and
>some that are suspect, but one that we did the upgrade to, wouldn't
>assoicate at all, going back on rev, it would associate.
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Nish Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date:  Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:57:29 +0800
>
>>We can provide the MAC#s. But the list would be quite unreadable
>because
>>the models do not run in consecutive #s. But if you suspect a MAC#,
>>please feel free to ask us. We can quickly look up in the database and
>>confirm to you.
>>
>>On the other hand we are quite certain that bulk of this problem exist
>>only in the factory shipments made during second half of June. By end
>>June we put shipment hold from the factory and at the distributors.
>>Factory resumed shipments on July 9 and the distributors are going to
>>start shipping the new products.
>>
>>So the simple guideline we are suggesting is that if you bought the
>>products in June and July and they are exhibiting the symptoms, don't
>>fight it. Try the F/W upgrade. This is not a destructive upgrade.
>>
>>The test is simple. Power on the device for a few hours. Associate to
>an
>>AP. Power cycle. The unit has problem if it can not associate back to
>>the AP and the blue LED keeps flashing. This test can be accelerated by
>>blowing warm air on the unit from a hair dryer.
>>
>>Nish
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:36 AM
>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>
>>Well then give us a broad range of mac addresses so we can see if we
>may
>>have one of the affected units. Is there a way to interrogate the
>>hardware with a simple program to see if it contains a chip version
>that
>>points to a possible problem ?
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Nish Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date:  Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:44:02 +0800
>>
>>>That is because aP-Indoor were not manufactured during this time.
>>>
>>>This is a limited batch issue - only some quantities of the products
>>>manufactured during a couple of weeks time frame were affected. These
>>>couple of weeks get expanded out into a couple of months due to how
>the
>>>products move through the distribution channel and warehousing.
>>>
>>>We track manufacturing by MAC #s. But a whole bunch of products flow
>>>through the production line at the same time so it is not possible for
>>>us to know the details of which component was used on which MAC #.
>>>
>>>Nish
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Saathoff
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:52 PM
>>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>firmware?
>>>
>>>John,
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, that's not true.  I have about 20 bad indoor units and
>a
>>>friend of my also has RMA'd about the same.  The indoor AB uses the
>>same
>>>board as the outdoor and many of the units will fail under heat the
>>same
>>>as
>>>the outdoor one's.  Some don't need to be all that hot just sitting in
>>a
>>>window were they get warm.
>>>
>>>I'm assuming you just haven't received any of the bad AirBridge
>>indoors.
>>>Wish I could say the same. :-)
>>>
>>>--Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Hokenson
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:42 AM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>firmware?
>>>
>>>
>>>What we've done is just switch to the Indoor AP in bridge mode until
>>>this
>>>issue has been dealt with.  They are not suffering from any of the
>>known
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>JH
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:37 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>firmware?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Look into reliawave, proxim, or one of the other certified solutions
>>>as a
>>>> temporary measure.  That's what we're doing.  It's going to cost us
>>>more
>>>up
>>>> front (trust me, it's more money that we don't really have) but it's
>>>worth
>>>> it to keep clients happy and to keep our installs flowing.  We have
>>>the
>>>> attitude that for now we are focusing on revenue.  We need to get
>our
>>>client
>>>> base up and keep them on so we (all WISPs) don't get known as
>>>unreliable.
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>>>firmware?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Ray,
>>>> >
>>>> > You do have a point but I really dont have any other option
>>>financially
>>>to
>>>> > choose from this was it I could start using some Linksys wet 11's
>>>but in
>>>> other
>>>> > forums when I was doing research these seemed to work but also had
>>a
>>>> lockup
>>>> > problem a while back so I decided to go with a known vendor (Smart
>>>> bridges) and
>>>> > I was happy until now.
>>>> > That's part of my sales pitch I use fully qualified outdoor rated
>>>radios
>>>> not
>>>> > cheap store bought stuff and people like the concept I cant go
>back
>>>on
>>>my
>>>> word
>>>> > now hehehe I think if SB had a good R & D process we would not see
>>>as
>>>many
>>>> > problems as we do. I think that going forward they or we need to
>>>press
>>>> this
>>>> > issue so we don't keep getting caught with our pants down. I
>>offered
>>>to
>>>> even
>>>> > devote many hours of my not so free time to help develop this
>>>process
>>>and
>>>> even
>>>> > field any tech calls for them once I get more established and not
>>>having
>>>> to do
>>>> > all the work for my WISP with just my partner and I. I think we
>can
>>>make
>>>> this
>>>> > product really kick some butt, but we have to have the buy in of
>>>smart
>>>> bridges
>>>> > and a few key individuals that will be diligent in testing new
>>>product
>>>> (BETA)
>>>> > and smart bridges will then use this as valuable input before
>>>implementing
>>>> any
>>>> > final changes and we will help with the approval process. I am
>sure
>>>there
>>>> are
>>>> > many people that are willing to help with this process such as me
>>>and
>>>> those
>>>> > that have some kind of background with working with engineers and
>>>> development
>>>> > people.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are your thoughts??
>>>> >
>>>> > Martin
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Quoting Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> >
>>>> > > My concern is that with all we've invested in these products
>(and
>>>I
>>>> really
>>>> > > like them) distributors might start to drop them.  Think about
>>it,
>>>if
>>>> you
>>>> > > were Ecomm would you want all this hassle?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I would rather SB recall or at least put a hold on all shipments
>>>until
>>>> they
>>>> > > get this issue fixed.  I would rather use another CPE product
>>that
>>>works
>>>> so
>>>> > > I don't look like a dumb a** to my clients by using beta
>products
>>>that
>>>> > > simply aren't yet ready.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I would switch back to SB as soon as the units are again
>working.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Ray
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:20 PM
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>>>firmware?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > I would agree with that!
>>>> > > > I did not catch what Dist they were getting them from? I get
>>>mine
>>>from
>>>> > > ECOMM
>>>> > > > and they have been pretty good for the most part. I dont like
>>>the
>>>idea
>>>> of
>>>> > > > having a bad unit and they charge your card for the
>repalcement
>>>ahead
>>>> of
>>>> > > time
>>>> > > > then refund you when they get the non working one back???
>Seems
>>>> backwards
>>>> > > to me
>>>> > > > I pitched a fit and got them to send me an APPO in advance
>>>exchange
>>>> liek
>>>> > > their
>>>> > > > warranty clearly states without being charged 1st then charge
>>me
>>>if
>>>I
>>>> > > dont
>>>> > > send
>>>> > > > it back within 10 days. This was after I ordered two new
>APPO's
>>>and
>>>> one I
>>>> > > > recieved was a used unit sent back for repair!
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Quoting Eje Gustafsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > shrug.. Now I am going to shock this entirely list by
>finally
>>>> agreeing
>>>> > > > > with Chris.. Can't agree more with what you just said.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > If they all where bad out of the box or a lot of them where
>>>bad
>>>out
>>>> of
>>>> > > > > the box it's the distributor/resellers problem not the
>>>manufacturers
>>>> > > > > if teh distributor or reseller don't want to work with you
>>you
>>>might
>>>> > > > > try to resolve it with the manufacturer if someone gets sued
>>>it
>>>> should
>>>> > > > > be the dist not the manufacturer. The manufacturer will not
>>>give
>>>you
>>>> a
>>>> > > > > refund. They sold the unit for say $10 and you purchased it
>>>for
>>>$20
>>>> > > > > from the dist so should the manufacturer give you a refund
>>for
>>>$20
>>>> and
>>>> > > > > lose $10 ??? Come on I think not. If someone should give you
>>a
>>>> refund
>>>> > > > > it's the dist. However if the dist will not work it out then
>>>the
>>>> > > > > manufacturer can give you a working replacement.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Best regards,
>>>> > > > >  Eje Gustafsson
>>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > The Family Entertainment Network      http://www.fament.com
>>>> > > > > Phone : 620-231-7777                  Fax   : 620-231-4066
>>>> > > > >      - Your Full Time Professionals -
>>>> > > > > eBay UserID : macahan
>>>> > > > > ---
>>>> > > > > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive.
>>>> > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/
>>>> > > > > --
>>>> > > > > p> Ok T n T
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> WOW Talk about a drastic calling for attention in my
>view,
>>>most
>>>> of
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > p> people on the board are working on resolving problems and
>>>your
>>>> > > response
>>>> > > > > toa
>>>> > > > > p> firmware issue is that they are advertised as carrier
>>class
>>>and
>>>> that
>>>> > > > > they
>>>> > > > > p> don't offer cash refunds? Umm does cisco or lucent? If so
>>>I'd
>>>> gladly
>>>> > > like
>>>> > > > > to
>>>> > > > > p> get my money back on some AP1000's or CPE Ethernet
>>>Converters
>>>and
>>>> a
>>>> > > few
>>>> > > > > p> cisco 350's. A class action suit? Really I have yet to
>>hear
>>>> anyone
>>>> > > that
>>>> > > > > is
>>>> > > > > p> pissed at the fact that they only exchange units in a
>>>timely
>>>> manner
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > > wont
>>>> > > > > p> give them there cash back? Personally I don't recall many
>>>groups
>>>> > > that
>>>> > > > > will
>>>> > > > > p> do cash refunds from the primary company isn't this a
>>point
>>>to
>>>> deal
>>>> > > with
>>>> > > > > p> your SUPPLIER if you feel you need to return goods cause
>>>you
>>>> don't
>>>> > > want
>>>> > > > > p> them.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> As far as I can tell in the past SB has stood behind
>there
>>>> problems
>>>> > > > > p> including phone calls from half way across the world at
>>>10am to
>>>> help
>>>> > > > > solve
>>>> > > > > p> MANY users problems in a one on one basis, they take
>>>suggestions
>>>> and
>>>> > > work
>>>> > > > > to
>>>> > > > > p> help mold there product. Really you have invested 6,000$
>>>wow I
>>>> have
>>>> > > > > spent
>>>> > > > > p> over 25,000 upgrading my network with SB's powering it
>and
>>>i
>>>have
>>>> > > yet
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > p> find a reason to neglect the funds spent.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> AS A NOTE IT SAYS
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> DOA Products must be returned in original condition, and
>>>the
>>>> return
>>>> > > box
>>>> > > > > must
>>>> > > > > p> include all components and originally packaged with the
>>>product,
>>>> > > > > including
>>>> > > > > p> cable, software, manual, etc. You must obtain an RMA
>>number
>>>> before
>>>> > > you
>>>> > > > > p> return any defective or DOA products.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> REQUIRES ORIGINAL BOX ON DOA UNITS... DOA MEANS DEAD ON
>>>ARRIVAL
>>>> > > HENCE
>>>> > > > > YOU
>>>> > > > > p> JUST GOT IT SO THEY WANT IT BACK HOW THEY SENT IT SINCE
>IT
>>>WAS
>>>> DEAD
>>>> > > AS
>>>> > > > > SOON
>>>> > > > > p> AS YOU GOT IT.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> As for the returning on a one to one basis it is not FINE
>>>PRINT
>>>> it
>>>> > > is
>>>> > > > > p> blatantly shown in Standard Sized text under the warranty
>>>> > > conditions.
>>>> > > > > Not
>>>> > > > > p> like they used size 1 font to try to hide it from you.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> Sorry if I'm being a di*k but this is just my take on
>your
>>>> comment.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> Chris
>>>> > > > > p> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > > > > p> From: Tom & Toni Maris
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > p> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:44 PM
>>>> > > > > p> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> My  husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more
>than
>>>> $6,000.00
>>>> > > in
>>>> > > > > this
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.
>>>> > > > > p> On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we
>>>read
>>>the
>>>> > > fine
>>>> > > > > print
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just
>>>> > > replacement
>>>> > > > > units
>>>> > > > > p> and that you have to have the original box!
>>>> > > > > p> Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier
>>>class.
>>>> > > > > p> This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like
>an
>>>honest
>>>> > > > > company.
>>>> > > > > p> First I would like to know where they get off saying
>>>anything
>>>> about
>>>> > > > > Carrier
>>>> > > > > p> class.
>>>> > > > > p> Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk,
>>>why do
>>>> you
>>>> > > need
>>>> > > > > an
>>>> > > > > p> original box to sned them back, and why don't they do
>>>refunds?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this
>>>Smartbridge
>>>> > > company
>>>> > > > > p> stand behind their products or give everyone their money
>>>back.
>>>He
>>>> > > thinks
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> that their is probably enough people like us who got
>>ripped
>>>off
>>>> to
>>>> > > get a
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> class action lawsuite against the company who sold us
>this
>>>pile
>>>> of
>>>> > > junk
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> Very very disapointed
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > p> T n T
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > >>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the
>>>new
>>>> > > firmware?
>>>> > > > > >>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the
>problem
>>>here
>>>> We
>>>> > > hav
>>>> > > > > >>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2
>miles
>>>the
>>>> last
>>>> > > > > >>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS
>I
>>>had
>>>> > > sugested
>>>> > > > > >>there is something going on here and I am finally able to
>>>get on
>>>> this
>>>> > > > > list
>>>> > > > > >>and post only to see what I have been telling support
>since
>>>last
>>>> week
>>>> > > > > >>before
>>>> > > > > >>the release only to be told its been working well in the
>>>"LAB"
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be
>>>tested
>>>> in
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > > > >>consistant manor not just really close up.
>>>> > > > > >>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if
>>possible
>>>> > > > > >>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is
>>>working
>>>and
>>>> how
>>>> > > > > well
>>>> > > > > >>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get
>>>association
>>>but
>>>> > > speeds
>>>> > > > > >>are
>>>> > > > > >>WAY down.
>>>> > > > > >>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of
>>>testing
>>>> before
>>>> > > ANY
>>>> > > > > >>final revision is released to save time and nerves of
>those
>>>of
>>>us
>>>> in
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > >>field!
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have
>>>been
>>>> tested
>>>> > > in
>>>> > > > > the
>>>> > > > > >>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something
>>>that is
>>>a
>>>> > > > > secret??
>>>> > > > > >>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that
>are
>>>> working
>>>> > > rock
>>>> > > > > >>solid and have ALL my customers down.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>  We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I
>>>have
>>>> seen
>>>> > > > > >>problems
>>>> > > > > >>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware
>>is
>>>> > > compatible
>>>> > > > > >>with
>>>> > > > > >>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on
>>>the
>>>> only
>>>> > > radio
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > >>we
>>>> > > > > >>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now
>>>> doorstops
>>>> > > > > after
>>>> > > > > >>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the
>>>final
>>>> > > release.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we
>found
>>>the
>>>> same
>>>> > > > > thing
>>>> > > > > >>on rev 2
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware
>>>is
>>>not
>>>> > > > > >>compatible
>>>> > > > > >>with the old good atmel chip per say.
>>>> > > > > >>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less
>then
>>>a
>>>> month
>>>> > > ago so
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > >>I
>>>> > > > > >>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come
>>>up
>>>with
>>>> a
>>>> > > way
>>>> > > > > to
>>>> > > > > >>positively identify which units are suspect with the
>>suspect
>>>chip.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that
>you
>>>can
>>>> > > afford
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > >>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what
>>>happens is
>>>> the
>>>> > > > > radio
>>>> > > > > >>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to
>>>log
>>>into
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > >>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you
>>no
>>>> longer
>>>> > > get a
>>>> > > > > >>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and
>>>don't
>>>> see
>>>> > > how
>>>> > > > > >>that would work since that just resets passwords and the
>IP
>>>> address
>>>> > > etc
>>>> > > > > but
>>>> > > > > >>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to
>>>unlock
>>>it
>>>> but
>>>> > > > > that
>>>> > > > > >>was useless because you need a network connection to the
>>>radio
>>>> > > hahaha.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you
>>can
>>>see
>>>> in
>>>> > > our
>>>> > > > > >>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it
>>works
>>>well
>>>> in
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > >>lab
>>>> > > > > >>and others have tested as well which I would like to know
>>>how
>>>far
>>>> > > away
>>>> > > > > they
>>>> > > > > >>tested the radio.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5
>>>miles
>>>we
>>>> > > > > associate
>>>> > > > > >>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine
>>and
>>>at
>>>> same
>>>> > > 3.5
>>>> > > > > >>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with
>>>rev
>>>> 0.01.04
>>>> > > we
>>>> > > > > >>get
>>>> > > > > >>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss.
>>>> > > > > >>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with
>>>firmware
>>>> > > 0.01.04
>>>> > > > > get
>>>> > > > > >>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final
>>>revision
>>>> and
>>>> > > we
>>>> > > > > >>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower
>>but
>>>we
>>>> can
>>>> > > ping
>>>> > > > > >>ABO
>>>> > > > > >>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with
>>>both
>>>> > > firmware.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I
>>>don't
>>>> > > understand
>>>> > > > > >>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing
>>>issue?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on
>>old
>>>> radios
>>>> > > with
>>>> > > > > >>old
>>>> > > > > >>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to
>load
>>>the
>>>> > > 0.01.06
>>>> > > > > on
>>>> > > > > >>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling
>>>which
>>>> radios
>>>> > > have
>>>> > > > > >>new or old atmel chip?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs
>>>> > > > > >>out to 7.2 miles.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > >>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM
>>>> > > > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the
>>>new
>>>> > > firmware?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Nish,
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this
>>>morning
>>>> and
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > > > >>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5.  We have
>no
>>>plans
>>>> to
>>>> > > > > update
>>>> > > > > >>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid.  Is
>>>there
>>>> going
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > be
>>>> > > > > >>firmware that will interact this firmware version?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Chris
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>---
>>>> > > > > >>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net
>>>> > > > > >>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities.
>>>> > > > > >>P.O. Box 55
>>>> > > > > >>Wellington, Colorado  80549
>>>> > > > > >>970-218-5295
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Nish Park
>>>> > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM
>>>> > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the
>>>new
>>>> > > firmware?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Tim,
>>>> > > > > >>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still
>doing
>>>the
>>>> same
>>>> > > > > >>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July
>>>purchase?),
>>>> > > RSSI
>>>> > > > > and
>>>> > > > > >>LQ values, Brand of AP?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association
>>at
>>>> elevated
>>>> > > > > >>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of
>all
>>>our
>>>> > > efforts
>>>> > > > > and
>>>> > > > > >>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we
>>>will
>>>be
>>>> > > > > focusing
>>>> > > > > >>on testing if there has been any other side effects.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are
>>>trying
>>>> to
>>>> > > see
>>>> > > > > >> >if
>>>> > > > > >>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of
>>>"periodic
>>>> > > lockup".
>>>> > > I
>>>> > > > > >>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but
>that
>>>has
>>>> not
>>>> > > been
>>>> > > > > >>the
>>>> > > > > >>focus of the current activity on hand.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Thanks for your support.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Nish
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Tim Harris
>>>> > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM
>>>> > > > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>>> > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the
>>>new
>>>> > > firmware?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit.
>Had
>>>to
>>>> unplug
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > > > to
>>>> > > > > >>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware.
>>>Started
>>>> > > > > working
>>>> > > > > >>fine.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages,
>>>still
>>>> doing
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > >>same thing!
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a
>>>point.
>>>> This
>>>> > > > > seems
>>>> > > > > >>to be getting ridiculous.
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response
>>>then..
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>Tim Harris, Operations
>>>> > > > > >>www.dwisp.net
>>>> > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > >>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>>>> > > > > >>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
>>>> firmware?
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? I'm getting
>ready
>>>to
>>>> try,
>>>> > > but
>>>> > > > > >> > wanted to check first to see what sort of luck others
>>>have
>>>had.
>>>> > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > >> > Thanks
>>>> > > > > >> > Sam
>>>> > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > >> >
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