Boy, I can't wait till my little IDE 64meg Drive comes with my Mikrotik router!
Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:36 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE > > We run a completely open network. There's no MAC lists, and no > validation of the client other than their username and password. > > We do this for several reasons. > > - MAC authentication is a pain in the ass nightmare. Especially > when you have situations (which I've seen most of them do this) > where the AirBridge passes it's own MAC address until the client > turns on their PC, then it passes the NIC MAC address. This is > usually fine except for when the client wants to plug in their > laptop. > - WEP encryption is easily crackable, and slows down the connection. > - We wanted to have HotSpot capability, which meant an open network. > > At the office we use MikroTik router software to authenticate clients > through three different methods. > > - HotSpot login > - PPTP for single user situations. (mainly residential) > - PPPoE for multi-user situations. (mainly SOHO and business) > > The only thing identifies them is Username and Password, and we do > limit to just one login per account. So once they are on, nobody can > hijack their connection. > > We chose PPPoE because it's the only login ability available with the > inexpensive little Cable/DSL routers, and it works great. It's not that > it's that secure or anything, but what is. Someone could just as easily > hack a dialup, an e-mail account, a web site login. We aren't that > paranoid, and our customers understand what their getting into. > > Kevin Summers > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > www.kistech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree Network > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:47 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE > > > > > > Kevin, > > Forgive the stupid questions here. > > > > What added benefit does the PPPoE provide you? > > > > Does it truly provide another level of authentication that is not as > > easily broken?? > > > > Sully > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Summers > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07 > > > > > > Tested PPPoE with MikroTik RouterOS version 2.7.0 > > > > Test # 1 - Linksys Cable/DSL Router > > > > - unsuccessful. I plugged the wrong wall wart into it > > and I think I fried it. > > > > Test # 2 - Efficient Networks Speedstream Cable/DSL Router > > > > - PPPoE Login worked fine > > - Internet access didn't work that great because the router > > wouldn't accept the subnet mask I gave it for it's WAN > > interface of 255.255.255.255. It automatically assumed > > 255.0.0.0 because it was a 65.x.x.x address. > > (now I know why these were only $12 at Fry's...) > > > > Test # 3 - SMC Barricade Cable/DSL Router > > > > - unsuccessful. This unit I think is also fried, but when > > a manufacturer wants you to use a paperclip and hold it > > on pins 4 and 9 for up to 30 seconds to reset the device, > > you are probably better off without it. > > > > Test # 4 - NEW Linksys Cable/DSL Router > > > > - PPPoE login was successful and I was able to get about 768K > > throughput on it. I'm checking into why it's so slow. > > > > Looks like the problem has been fixed, and PPPoE does indeed > > work fine on the new firmware with MikroTik... > > > > Kevin Summers > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > www.kistech.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:02 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07 > > > > > > > > > I'm sitting at my computer repeatedly hitting "Send/Receive"... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:47 PM > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just about to test it with MikroTik. > > > > > > > > Kevin Summers > > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:31 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tested this with Mikrotik? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Lars Gaarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:18 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric Helm wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We unsuccessfully tested a NetScreen firewall PPPoE client. > > This > > > > > particular > > > > > > > client has the same problem most other PPPoE clients had with > > the > > > old > > > > > > > firmware. > > > > > > > > > > > > Odd. I tested 0.01.07 today, and from what I can tell from > > > the packet > > > > > > dumps it should work perfectly for any RFC compliant PPPoE > > > client and > > > > > > server. (good work, sB!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Any chance you could provide a packet dump of the > > > connection attempt? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you by any chance using PPPoE relay? Some clients - > > especially > > > > > > el-cheapo broadband routers - won't work correctly with PPPoE > > relay. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't work for sB but I have a vested interest in making sure > > that > > > > > > the PPPoE pass-through on the airBridge works perfectly. > > > We're running > > > > > > a pure PPPoE network too, and are planning to switch from > > airPoint > > > > > > indoors in clientbirdge mode to airBridge Outdoor for the CPEs. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > LarsG > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > unsubscribe > > > > > smartBridges) > > > > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > > > > unsubscribe smartBridges) > > > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > > smartBridges) > > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > > unsubscribe smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > unsubscribe smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
