I'm hurt you didn't get the MikroTik stuff from me :(

Hope you didn't end up paying to much in shipping if you got it direct
from Latvia (I might be a Swede but I am located in Kansas).

Best regards,
 Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Friday, August 1, 2003, 5:15:03 PM, you wrote:

DB> Boy, I can't wait till my little IDE 64meg Drive comes with my Mikrotik
DB> router!

DB> Dennis

DB> ----- Original Message ----- 
DB> From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DB> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DB> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:36 PM
DB> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE


>>
>> We run a completely open network. There's no MAC lists, and no
>> validation of the client other than their username and password.
>>
>> We do this for several reasons.
>>
>> - MAC authentication is a pain in the ass nightmare. Especially
>>   when you have situations (which I've seen most of them do this)
>>   where the AirBridge passes it's own MAC address until the client
>>   turns on their PC, then it passes the NIC MAC address. This is
>>   usually fine except for when the client wants to plug in their
>>   laptop.
>> - WEP encryption is easily crackable, and slows down the connection.
>> - We wanted to have HotSpot capability, which meant an open network.
>>
>> At the office we use MikroTik router software to authenticate clients
>> through three different methods.
>>
>> - HotSpot login
>> - PPTP for single user situations. (mainly residential)
>> - PPPoE for multi-user situations. (mainly SOHO and business)
>>
>> The only thing identifies them is Username and Password, and we do
>> limit to just one login per account. So once they are on, nobody can
>> hijack their connection.
>>
>> We chose PPPoE because it's the only login ability available with the
>> inexpensive little Cable/DSL routers, and it works great. It's not that
>> it's that secure or anything, but what is. Someone could just as easily
>> hack a dialup, an e-mail account, a web site login. We aren't that
>> paranoid, and our customers understand what their getting into.
>>
>> Kevin Summers
>> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
>> www.kistech.com
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree Network
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:47 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: [smartBridges] Offlist - Why use PPPoE
>> >
>> >
>> > Kevin,
>> > Forgive the stupid questions here.
>> >
>> > What added benefit does the PPPoE provide you?
>> >
>> > Does it truly provide another level of authentication that is not as
>> > easily broken??
>> >
>> > Sully
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Summers
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:44 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] PPPoE on Firmware version 0.01.07
>> >
>> >
>> > Tested PPPoE with MikroTik RouterOS version 2.7.0
>> >
>> > Test # 1 - Linksys Cable/DSL Router
>> >
>> > - unsuccessful. I plugged the wrong wall wart into it
>> >   and I think I fried it.
>> >
>> > Test # 2 - Efficient Networks Speedstream Cable/DSL Router
>> >
>> > - PPPoE Login worked fine
>> > - Internet access didn't work that great because the router
>> >   wouldn't accept the subnet mask I gave it for it's WAN
>> >   interface of 255.255.255.255. It automatically assumed
>> >   255.0.0.0 because it was a 65.x.x.x address.
>> >   (now I know why these were only $12 at Fry's...)
>> >
>> > Test # 3 - SMC Barricade Cable/DSL Router
>> >
>> > - unsuccessful. This unit I think is also fried, but when
>> >   a manufacturer wants you to use a paperclip and hold it
>> >   on pins 4 and 9 for up to 30 seconds to reset the device,
>> >   you are probably better off without it.
>> >
>> > Test # 4 - NEW Linksys Cable/DSL Router
>> >
>> > - PPPoE login was successful and I was able to get about 768K
>> >   throughput on it. I'm checking into why it's so slow.
>> >
>> > Looks like the problem has been fixed, and PPPoE does indeed
>> > work fine on the new firmware with MikroTik...
>> >
>> > Kevin Summers
>> > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
>> > www.kistech.com

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