Eje I have a question for you We ordered a new aBO a couple days ago to do more testing with We could never get it to associate, we tried everything We have a spare aPPo, we have never tried this but can't you just set the aPPO in client bridge mode and then it will act lide an airBridge??
thanks Joe K -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:57 PM To: Blazen Wireless Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. Question how many customers do you have that are running in 2Mbit or 1Mbit mode ? Unless there been some serious changes in the latest firmwares and in the new hardware have 3-4 people download a combined 500kbps should be no problem. But from your explanation it sounds like there is another problem somewhere. What are the signal levels of your clients ? what speeds are they associated at ? If you have ONE active client assoicated at 1Mbit speeds then your entire cell is running in 1Mbit mode so figure around 300-500kbit throughput. How do you determine they are sending 500Kbit ? How many packages are they transferring ? What type of traffic ? do you allow client to client communication ? You leave out a lot for us to properly figure out why your cell is running so slow. Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 - Your Full Time Professionals - eBay UserID : macahan --- searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ -- BW> I have switched to many channels and having both at chan 3 work the best. BW> Yes I was doing tests while others were downloading and those were the times BW> people were complaining. Your right that you think it is net congestion but BW> should it not handle more then just a few users who when downloading are BW> only downloading at minimal speeds. I mean it should not get that bad when BW> only a couple users are on and say a 4th or 5th person gets on and cant even BW> surf and gets page can not be displayed errors because the net is so BW> congested and the bottle neck is at the APPO? When the system is hammered BW> ( 4-5 users downloading no more then say 500KBPS combined) I can ping my BW> backhaul radio at the tower (canopy stuff) and it is fine. If I try and ping BW> an APPO while its hammered with users I time out all over the place! BW> ----- Original Message ----- BW> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BW> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:16 PM BW> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. BW> Are you running your download tests when none of your other customers are BW> using the system? Previously you mentioned that you're throttling some BW> users BW> at 900k. If you get 4 or 5 of those all downloading simultaneously on an 11 BW> meg system, you're going to end up with a saturated network. If you've got BW> a BW> few of those guys running Kazaa, for example, it'll kill your network. If BW> you're running your tests at the same time that they're downloading, you'll BW> probably have trouble. BW> Also, are you sure that your AP is running at 11 mbps? Maybe for some BW> reason BW> it's running at 2 or even 1 mbps. Even if you don't have it set to run at 1 BW> or 2, maybe interferrence is causing it to auto-fallback. BW> Have you tried switching channels, to see what happens. I've had problems BW> before running on a particular channel, even though from everything I could BW> tell there was no more noise on that channel than on any other. Switching BW> to BW> another channel fixed it. BW> Craig BW> Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Okay I have ran test on idle computers and get terrible pings and time BW> outs >> when others are either downloading or uploading via the same radio and a >> little better pings if the clients are on different radios (appo's) >> Throughput test just plain suck when someone is on downloading say a file >> at >> 500kbps and I tray to download a file from my local webserver within our >> own >> network over the APPO's. So it seems that with 20 people or so we have >> maxed >> out these radios? I thought 128 was the max? If it cant handle more then BW> 20 >> people I am going to ditch this whole project and go back to Orinoco BW> stuff. >> I cant keep having people complain. This all happened after switching both >> AP to APPO's >> >> >> What is the max anyone has on any one APPO right now and what is the max >> users you have seen on at they same time and have you run tests to see BW> what >> the download upload is on one or two of the clients? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >> >> >> I'd give: http://www.ixiacom.com/enterprise/Chariot.php?section=10#console >> a >> try. Grab the console, install it on your laptop, grab the endpoint for BW> the >> consumer's PC, and get them to run it. Then conduct throughput tests via >> the >> chariot console from the backbone side of the AP through to the customer. >> Should provide you information on throughput TCP/UDP etc. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >> >> >> > 1 queue per customer on the software.. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:09 AM >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >> > >> > >> > How are you setting your queques?, the BCU has individual queques, are >> you >> > using 1 queque per customer or are you using 1 queque for many BW> customers? >> > >> > Gino >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless >> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:10 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >> > >> > >> > I am using a BCU between the t-1 router and the clients >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:00 PM >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >> > >> > >> > You need a bandwidth manager on your network and bandwidth limit your >> > clients. >> > >> > Plus if your doing a completely bridge network then you seriously >> > needs to start doing some routing on your network or else things will >> > not work. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >> > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >> > - Your Full Time Professionals - >> > eBay UserID : macahan >> > --- >> > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ >> > -- >> > BW> Okay guys here is a question I know SB says they can have up to 128 >> > clients associated to the APPO. I have aprox 22 on each one and they are >> > totally crapping out by that mean I get 4-5 users on >> > BW> downloading at any given time and I swear to you pings just go to >> hell >> > as high as 200-300 and lows about 30ms. I have tried EVERYTHING RTS CTS >> > different channels WEP no WEP anything and >> > BW> everything and it has got me by the balls and I am tired of clients >> > calling me complaining it is slow. It used to be awesome with 4-5 users >> > total on it and even 10 users but after that its just >> > BW> gone down hill. >> > >> > BW> Any suggestion would GREATLY be appreciated. >> > >> > BW> two APPO's each connected to a 500mw Amp 50 ft of coax LMR 400 and >> then >> > to a 13DB 90* pac wireless ant one facing north and one facing south BW> both >> on >> > chan 3 I know I know you will say interference >> > BW> from each other I tried separating and it made no difference it >> actually >> > got worse I even had one appo in client bridge mode to check BW> interference >> > and I saw nothing form the APPO right next to it >> > BW> and very few other Access points out in the field. Most were at rssi >> 20 >> > maybe 30% and link 20%. >> > >> > >> > BW> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me with any ideas I am all out I have >> worked >> > on this all week I have a remote pop that is fed by the main two APPO's >> and >> > the two customers on that radio can ping the >> > BW> remote appo all day long with less then 5 ms yet when you try and >> ping >> > the main appos the pings are all over the place.. >> > >> > BW> Oh yea most all signals at eh APPO's from the client show (not sure >> how >> > accurate) 80 -100 RSSI some just under 80% and link about the same so I >> > don't know if this could hamper it I have tried >> > BW> with a couple clients setting the APPO and ABO to autofallback BW> speeds >> > and that seemed to help for a couple people that were far out about 4-5 >> > miles people up close seem to be fine.. >> > >> > BW> 13-19db ants on each install >> > >> > BW> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP >> > >> > >> > BW> Martin >> > >> > -- >> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> > smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> > smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> > smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> > smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> > smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> > smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> smartBridges <yournickname> >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> smartBridges) >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> > >> > >> >> >> >> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> smartBridges <yournickname> >> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> smartBridges) >> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> >> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe BW> smartBridges >> <yournickname> >> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> smartBridges) >> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> >> BW> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List BW> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe BW> smartBridges <yournickname> BW> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe BW> smartBridges) BW> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org BW> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List BW> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> BW> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) BW> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
