Yepp in client bridge mode the aPP works like a airBridge (with one difference that the MAC address is handled correctly)
Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 - Your Full Time Professionals - Mikrotik OEM Dealer - Online store http://www.fament.net -- JE> Eje JE> I have a question for you JE> We ordered a new aBO a couple days ago to do more testing with JE> We could never get it to associate, we tried everything JE> We have a spare aPPo, we have never tried this but can't you just set the JE> aPPO in client JE> bridge mode and then it will act lide an airBridge?? JE> thanks JE> Joe K JE> -----Original Message----- JE> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JE> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson JE> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:57 PM JE> To: Blazen Wireless JE> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. JE> Question how many customers do you have that are running in 2Mbit or JE> 1Mbit mode ? JE> Unless there been some serious changes in the latest firmwares and in JE> the new hardware have 3-4 people download a combined 500kbps should be JE> no problem. JE> But from your explanation it sounds like there is another problem JE> somewhere. JE> What are the signal levels of your clients ? what speeds are they JE> associated at ? If you have ONE active client assoicated at 1Mbit JE> speeds then your entire cell is running in 1Mbit mode so figure around JE> 300-500kbit throughput. JE> How do you determine they are sending 500Kbit ? How many packages are JE> they transferring ? What type of traffic ? do you allow client to JE> client communication ? JE> You leave out a lot for us to properly figure out why your cell is JE> running so slow. JE> Best regards, JE> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JE> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com JE> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 JE> - Your Full Time Professionals - JE> eBay UserID : macahan JE> --- JE> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. JE> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ JE> -- BW>> I have switched to many channels and having both at chan 3 work the JE> best. BW>> Yes I was doing tests while others were downloading and those were the JE> times BW>> people were complaining. Your right that you think it is net congestion JE> but BW>> should it not handle more then just a few users who when downloading are BW>> only downloading at minimal speeds. I mean it should not get that bad JE> when BW>> only a couple users are on and say a 4th or 5th person gets on and cant JE> even BW>> surf and gets page can not be displayed errors because the net is so BW>> congested and the bottle neck is at the APPO? When the system is JE> hammered BW>> ( 4-5 users downloading no more then say 500KBPS combined) I can ping my BW>> backhaul radio at the tower (canopy stuff) and it is fine. If I try and JE> ping BW>> an APPO while its hammered with users I time out all over the place! BW>> ----- Original Message ----- BW>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BW>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BW>> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:16 PM BW>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. BW>> Are you running your download tests when none of your other customers JE> are BW>> using the system? Previously you mentioned that you're throttling some BW>> users BW>> at 900k. If you get 4 or 5 of those all downloading simultaneously on JE> an 11 BW>> meg system, you're going to end up with a saturated network. If you've JE> got BW>> a BW>> few of those guys running Kazaa, for example, it'll kill your network. JE> If BW>> you're running your tests at the same time that they're downloading, JE> you'll BW>> probably have trouble. BW>> Also, are you sure that your AP is running at 11 mbps? Maybe for some BW>> reason BW>> it's running at 2 or even 1 mbps. Even if you don't have it set to run JE> at 1 BW>> or 2, maybe interferrence is causing it to auto-fallback. BW>> Have you tried switching channels, to see what happens. I've had JE> problems BW>> before running on a particular channel, even though from everything I JE> could BW>> tell there was no more noise on that channel than on any other. JE> Switching BW>> to BW>> another channel fixed it. BW>> Craig BW>> Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Okay I have ran test on idle computers and get terrible pings and time BW>> outs >>> when others are either downloading or uploading via the same radio and a >>> little better pings if the clients are on different radios (appo's) >>> Throughput test just plain suck when someone is on downloading say a file >>> at >>> 500kbps and I tray to download a file from my local webserver within our >>> own >>> network over the APPO's. So it seems that with 20 people or so we have >>> maxed >>> out these radios? I thought 128 was the max? If it cant handle more then BW>> 20 >>> people I am going to ditch this whole project and go back to Orinoco BW>> stuff. >>> I cant keep having people complain. This all happened after switching JE> both >>> AP to APPO's >>> >>> >>> What is the max anyone has on any one APPO right now and what is the max >>> users you have seen on at they same time and have you run tests to see BW>> what >>> the download upload is on one or two of the clients? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >>> >>> >>> I'd give: JE> http://www.ixiacom.com/enterprise/Chariot.php?section=10#console >>> a >>> try. Grab the console, install it on your laptop, grab the endpoint for BW>> the >>> consumer's PC, and get them to run it. Then conduct throughput tests via >>> the >>> chariot console from the backbone side of the AP through to the customer. >>> Should provide you information on throughput TCP/UDP etc. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >>> >>> >>> > 1 queue per customer on the software.. >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:09 AM >>> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >>> > >>> > >>> > How are you setting your queques?, the BCU has individual queques, are >>> you >>> > using 1 queque per customer or are you using 1 queque for many BW>> customers? >>> > >>> > Gino >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless >>> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:10 AM >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >>> > >>> > >>> > I am using a BCU between the t-1 router and the clients >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > To: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:00 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. >>> > >>> > >>> > You need a bandwidth manager on your network and bandwidth limit your >>> > clients. >>> > >>> > Plus if your doing a completely bridge network then you seriously >>> > needs to start doing some routing on your network or else things will >>> > not work. >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >>> > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >>> > - Your Full Time Professionals - >>> > eBay UserID : macahan >>> > --- >>> > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ >>> > -- >>> > BW> Okay guys here is a question I know SB says they can have up to 128 >>> > clients associated to the APPO. I have aprox 22 on each one and they JE> are >>> > totally crapping out by that mean I get 4-5 users on >>> > BW> downloading at any given time and I swear to you pings just go to >>> hell >>> > as high as 200-300 and lows about 30ms. I have tried EVERYTHING RTS CTS >>> > different channels WEP no WEP anything and >>> > BW> everything and it has got me by the balls and I am tired of clients >>> > calling me complaining it is slow. It used to be awesome with 4-5 users >>> > total on it and even 10 users but after that its just >>> > BW> gone down hill. >>> > >>> > BW> Any suggestion would GREATLY be appreciated. >>> > >>> > BW> two APPO's each connected to a 500mw Amp 50 ft of coax LMR 400 and >>> then >>> > to a 13DB 90* pac wireless ant one facing north and one facing south BW>> both >>> on >>> > chan 3 I know I know you will say interference >>> > BW> from each other I tried separating and it made no difference it >>> actually >>> > got worse I even had one appo in client bridge mode to check BW>> interference >>> > and I saw nothing form the APPO right next to it >>> > BW> and very few other Access points out in the field. Most were at JE> rssi >>> 20 >>> > maybe 30% and link 20%. >>> > >>> > >>> > BW> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me with any ideas I am all out I have >>> worked >>> > on this all week I have a remote pop that is fed by the main two APPO's >>> and >>> > the two customers on that radio can ping the >>> > BW> remote appo all day long with less then 5 ms yet when you try and >>> ping >>> > the main appos the pings are all over the place.. >>> > >>> > BW> Oh yea most all signals at eh APPO's from the client show (not sure >>> how >>> > accurate) 80 -100 RSSI some just under 80% and link about the same so I >>> > don't know if this could hamper it I have tried >>> > BW> with a couple clients setting the APPO and ABO to autofallback BW>> speeds >>> > and that seemed to help for a couple people that were far out about 4-5 >>> > miles people up close seem to be fine.. >>> > >>> > BW> 13-19db ants on each install >>> > >>> > BW> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP >>> > >>> > >>> > BW> Martin >>> > >>> > -- >>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> > smartBridges) >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> > smartBridges) >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> > smartBridges) >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>> smartBridges <yournickname> >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> smartBridges) >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >>> smartBridges <yournickname> >>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> smartBridges) >>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> >>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe BW>> smartBridges >>> <yournickname> >>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >>> smartBridges) >>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> >>> BW>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List BW>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe BW>> smartBridges <yournickname> BW>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe BW>> smartBridges) BW>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org BW>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List BW>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe JE> smartBridges <yournickname> BW>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe JE> smartBridges) BW>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org JE> -- JE> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] JE> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List JE> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe JE> smartBridges <yournickname> JE> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe JE> smartBridges) JE> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org JE> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List JE> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> JE> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) JE> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
