Roger Hartley wrote:

I extend my apologies to you, Rick. I did try to post this question to the isp-wireless list first, but for some reason my posts take from 12 hours to never to show up on that list. "Never" seemed to be the mode on this question. I did get some good answers from the readers of the smartBridges list, so I was satisfied, but I'll try to stay more on topic for you in the future.

I don't have a problem with OT posts, seems like it's the norm for most of these lists. Except qmail list ( never do an OT on any Qmail list).
But........
You might also want to try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
There you can talk about anything , and it seems like there are more people there than the SB lists. I think most of the people on the isp-wireless list are also on the wisp-part15 list.
Hope this helps
George




Rick Herrmann wrote:


My point is that I joined this list to find Smartbridges information, not
how to build and market towers to cell companies.


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux


I didn't start this thread, however some of us actually do use towers in our
deployment of smartBridges. This may have been better on the WISP list,
however your point Mr. Herrman?


GK

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:47 PM
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Is there some relationship between smartbridges and this thread?? Perhaps I
am missing the point here.


Thanks, Rick

-----Original Message-----
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Could we expect to charge and receive the same rates for the cell phone
lease/s on our owned towers as we are being asked for on a 802.11.x install
on other towers? In an earlier post it was mentioned not to expect this? Any
one involved in such a lease and would share the tower & lease specs of that
with me on or off list?


GK

----- Original Message ----- From: "beckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:20 AM
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I think what you want to do is create a full tower WITH cellular radio
system? Yes? First you need to become a CLEC, then you will need a


cellular

frequency license. Then, you can get a roaming agreement with the cell
carriers and start getting $$. Expect to invest ~ 2-3 million in fees,
equipment, lawyers, insurance, and a boatload of time.

Its allot easier to build a tower and invite the various cell companies to
deploy on it.



Donald Beckman Fort Worth, Texas


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Hartley Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux


I should have been more clear. There is no tower now. My friend wants to
put up a new cell phone tower and WE will own it. Can this sort of thing
be done? Can we put up a cell phone tower and get it on the network of
other cell phone towers?


Blazen Wireless wrote:


You can go here to look up any tower in the US by city state and or zip
code!


http://www.berkana.com/tower.php3


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux


The trick is finding out who actually owns the tower. Most cell phone
companies have sold all their tower sites to just a few tower companies.
So first find out who owns it. Try Fryes Site Guide. they have a


online


site guide and tower locator service. Get the Lat/Long of the tower you
want to find out about and check with Fryes


Mike B




I posted a question about this to the isp-wireless list last night, but
it never showed up, maybe someone here can answer. The text of the
original post:


I was surprised today to be approached by a local businessman who wants
me to look into putting up a cell phone tower in our community. When I
said I don't even know how to go about getting the telephone company to
let us on the network, he said they pretty much have to.


He definitely has the clout to get things accomplished and we do need
the tower, but I don't know if this is even a feasable thing to do. The
phone companies in this area pretty much ignore us, there's almost no
signal at all anywhere in town. How do I go about finding out more, or
is this the proverbial ant with a <snip> crawling up the elephant's hind
leg?


By the way, one tower site I've been drooling over for my WISP - I think
would be a good place to put a cell phone tower, and I just got the
folks who own it to agree in principal to let me put a tower up there.


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