Many of us moved off the isp-wireless list because of the unscrupulous
behaviour of the owner of the list.

JH
----- Original Message -----
From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux


> Roger Hartley wrote:
>
> > I extend my apologies to you, Rick. I did try to post this question to
> > the isp-wireless list first, but for some reason my posts take from 12
> > hours to never to show up on that list. "Never" seemed to be the mode
> > on this question. I did get some good answers from the readers of the
> > smartBridges list, so I was satisfied, but I'll try to stay more on
> > topic for you in the future.
>
> I don't have a problem with OT posts, seems like it's the norm for most
> of these  lists. Except qmail list ( never do an OT on any Qmail list).
> But........
> You might also want to try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
> There you can talk about anything , and it seems like there are more
> people there than the SB lists. I think most of the people on the
> isp-wireless list are also on the wisp-part15 list.
> Hope this helps
> George
>
>
> >
> > Rick Herrmann wrote:
> >
> >> My point is that I joined this list to find Smartbridges information,
> >> not
> >> how to build and market towers to cell companies.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of George King
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:21 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>
> >> I didn't start this thread, however some of us actually do use towers
> >> in our
> >> deployment of smartBridges. This may have been better on the WISP list,
> >> however your point Mr. Herrman?
> >>
> >> GK
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Herrmann"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:47 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there some relationship between smartbridges and this thread??
> >> Perhaps I
> >> am missing the point here.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Rick
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of George King
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:56 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>
> >> Could we expect to charge and receive the same rates for the cell phone
> >> lease/s on our owned towers as we are being asked for on a 802.11.x
> >> install
> >> on other towers? In an earlier post it was mentioned not to expect
> >> this? Any
> >> one involved in such a lease and would share the tower & lease specs
> >> of that
> >> with me on or off list?
> >>
> >> GK
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "beckman"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:20 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I think what you want to do is create a full tower WITH cellular radio
> >>> system? Yes? First you need to become a CLEC, then you will need a
> >>
> >>
> >> cellular
> >>
> >>> frequency license. Then, you can get a roaming agreement with the cell
> >>> carriers and start getting $$. Expect to invest ~ 2-3 million in fees,
> >>> equipment, lawyers, insurance, and a boatload of time.
> >>>
> >>> Its allot easier to build a tower and invite the various cell
> >>> companies to
> >>> deploy on it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Donald Beckman
> >>> Fort Worth, Texas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Hartley
> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:47 AM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I should have been more clear. There is no tower now. My friend
> >>> wants to
> >>> put up a new cell phone tower and WE will own it. Can this sort of
> >>> thing
> >>> be done? Can we put up a cell phone tower and get it on the network of
> >>> other cell phone towers?
> >>>
> >>> Blazen Wireless wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You can go here to look up any tower in the US by city state and or
> >>>> zip
> >>>> code!
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.berkana.com/tower.php3
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:04 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cell phone tower - redeux
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The trick is finding out who actually owns the tower.  Most cell
phone
> >>>> companies have sold all their tower sites to just a few tower
> >>>> companies.
> >>>> So first find out who owns it.  Try Fryes Site Guide.  they have a
> >>>
> >>
> >> online
> >>
> >>>> site guide and tower locator service.  Get the Lat/Long of the
> >>>> tower you
> >>>> want to find out about and check with Fryes
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike B
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I posted a question about this to the isp-wireless list last
> >>>>> night, but
> >>>>> it never showed up, maybe someone here can answer. The text of the
> >>>>> original post:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was surprised today to be approached by a local businessman who
> >>>>> wants
> >>>>> me to look into putting up a cell phone tower in our community.
> >>>>> When I
> >>>>> said I don't even know how to go about getting the telephone
> >>>>> company to
> >>>>> let us on the network, he said they pretty much have to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He definitely has the clout to get things accomplished and we do
need
> >>>>> the tower, but I don't know if this is even a feasable thing to
> >>>>> do. The
> >>>>> phone companies in this area pretty much ignore us, there's almost
no
> >>>>> signal at all anywhere in town. How do I go about finding out
> >>>>> more, or
> >>>>> is this the proverbial ant with a <snip> crawling up the
> >>>>> elephant's hind
> >>>>> leg?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By the way, one tower site I've been drooling over for my WISP - I
> >>>>> think
> >>>>> would be a good place to put a cell phone tower, and I just got the
> >>>>> folks who own it to agree in principal to let me put a tower up
> >>>>> there.
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Brownson
> >>>> Electro-comm Distributing
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