The problem is EVERY house is different.  The homes in my area are all
around 5 years old.  The insulation is BLOWN in by the truckload.  You
cant even see the rafters, so you dig your foot around till it feels
solid and hope you can put weight on it.  Then you do it all over again
from rafter to rafter.  Then you crouch down in knee deep insulation
powder and attempt to find the location to feed your snake down.  No way
is it a 30 minute job!!  More like 2 hours.  Much more than that if you
factor in the replacement time for the sheetrock that you put your
freaking knee through in their ceiling.

Nope...NO attics for me or my sub contractors.

Sully

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Moreno
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor

are you serious it takes us about 30 min to snake a wire from the attic
to an 
upstairs room down inside the wall we invested about $100 in parts like
a long 
drill bit and thse cool fiberglass rods that when put together reach
about 15 
feet!
Piece of cake most the time we charge extra $50-$75 to snake it in the
wall and 
people pay it ;-) 

Quoting The Wirefree Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Huh...now I am stumped.  I see that the POE unit is outside.  So...if
only
> one CAT5 passes through the wall, how does the outside unit get
power?? 
> You
> cant possibly be using the indoor POE unit to combine the signal and
power,
> then doing it again outside??
>  
> Sorry...I am just confused.
>  
> Oh...and I don't use ANY flush mounts (too much work).  I use ONLY the
> surface mount jacks.  I also don't fish anyone's walls.  That would
cost me
> too much in subcontractor fees.  I run all cable outside, with one
> penetration point where we put a surface mount RJ45 jack, then a short
CAT5
> to the router/pc.
>  
> Sully
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor
>  
> Yes we are planning for the Flush mount. But I there is still time to
> change. This can be changed even at a later time based on more user
> feedback.
>  
> Based on the discussion on this forum a few days ago, we have modified
the
> mounting instructions such that only one CAT5 cable needs to go
through the
> wall.
>  
> Nish
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Chris Chance
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor
>  
> I know this flush mount is not a good idea a surface  box I would
think
> would make things easier... did the doc really say flush mount? I hope
not
> :( don't drill 2 holes use a 1/4 inch hole instead of 3/8 or just go
one
> side up to fit both inside.
> Chris 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: The Wirefree Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:42 AM 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Here is my 2 cents on this product that is obviously already in 
> production...too late to make suggestions I guess. 
> I definitely LOVE the compliance factors...the self sensing power 
> adjustment....and the protection!  Much needed improvements!! 
> I don't like the added work I have to do to mount/install 
> this...mounting the box, drilling 2 holes, cutting a hole in there
wall 
> for the flush mount plate, etc!  I guess the client could still do a 
> power reset from inside the home...that's okay.  I also don't like the

> power plug using Rj-11...but there really is not chance of hurting 
> anything there. 
> I personally use a surface mount RJ45 block for all my installs.  I 
> drill one small hole from the outside and mount the jack over the top
of 
> the hole.  Sure...flush mounts look nicer...but more work!! 
> Sully 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Pallab Chakrabarti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:52 AM 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor 
> Hi 
> smartBridges has introduced PoE Outdoor(tm), a unique concept of
dynamic 
> Power over Ethernet for outdoor wireless installations. Please find 
> attached the product brochure and the press release from smartBridges.

> Please visit www.smartbridges.com/new/products/po.php for details on
the 
> PoE Outdoor. 
> Thanks 
> smartBridges Global Marketing 
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