I do it all the time. Around here a lot of the electricians are using mud rings for tv telephone. So If I can find a low voltage drop from the attic, I just drop the snake down the same hole and out the same opening as the teelephone tv jack.
But I totally agree that sometimes it's a lot harder than that.
George


The Wirefree Network wrote:

The problem is EVERY house is different.  The homes in my area are all
around 5 years old.  The insulation is BLOWN in by the truckload.  You
cant even see the rafters, so you dig your foot around till it feels
solid and hope you can put weight on it.  Then you do it all over again
from rafter to rafter.  Then you crouch down in knee deep insulation
powder and attempt to find the location to feed your snake down.  No way
is it a 30 minute job!!  More like 2 hours.  Much more than that if you
factor in the replacement time for the sheetrock that you put your
freaking knee through in their ceiling.

Nope...NO attics for me or my sub contractors.

Sully

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Moreno
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor

are you serious it takes us about 30 min to snake a wire from the attic
to an upstairs room down inside the wall we invested about $100 in parts like
a long drill bit and thse cool fiberglass rods that when put together reach
about 15 feet!
Piece of cake most the time we charge extra $50-$75 to snake it in the
wall and people pay it ;-)


Quoting The Wirefree Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Huh...now I am stumped. I see that the POE unit is outside. So...if


only


one CAT5 passes through the wall, how does the outside unit get


power??

You
cant possibly be using the indoor POE unit to combine the signal and


power,


then doing it again outside??

Sorry...I am just confused.

Oh...and I don't use ANY flush mounts (too much work). I use ONLY the
surface mount jacks. I also don't fish anyone's walls. That would


cost me


too much in subcontractor fees. I run all cable outside, with one
penetration point where we put a surface mount RJ45 jack, then a short


CAT5


to the router/pc.

Sully

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor

Yes we are planning for the Flush mount. But I there is still time to
change. This can be changed even at a later time based on more user
feedback.

Based on the discussion on this forum a few days ago, we have modified


the


mounting instructions such that only one CAT5 cable needs to go


through the


wall.

Nish


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Chance Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor

I know this flush mount is not a good idea a surface box I would


think


would make things easier... did the doc really say flush mount? I hope


not


:( don't drill 2 holes use a 1/4 inch hole instead of 3/8 or just go


one


side up to fit both inside.
Chris -----Original Message----- From: The Wirefree Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is my 2 cents on this product that is obviously already in production...too late to make suggestions I guess. I definitely LOVE the compliance factors...the self sensing power adjustment....and the protection! Much needed improvements!! I don't like the added work I have to do to mount/install this...mounting the box, drilling 2 holes, cutting a hole in there


wall

for the flush mount plate, etc! I guess the client could still do a power reset from inside the home...that's okay. I also don't like the





power plug using Rj-11...but there really is not chance of hurting anything there. I personally use a surface mount RJ45 block for all my installs. I drill one small hole from the outside and mount the jack over the top


of

the hole. Sure...flush mounts look nicer...but more work!! Sully -----Original Message----- From: Pallab Chakrabarti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smartBridges launches PoE Outdoor Hi smartBridges has introduced PoE Outdoor(tm), a unique concept of


dynamic

Power over Ethernet for outdoor wireless installations. Please find attached the product brochure and the press release from smartBridges.





Please visit www.smartbridges.com/new/products/po.php for details on


the

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