For the record, I am not that Ray.
----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > That is also a very nice product. > There's a fellow that is on the other list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( I keep > saying to join the others listS ) named Ray. He is a sizable wisp in > central California who took > about 1 year to develop his own cpe unit. That is his unit. He has a > deal with Tony from Demarc Tech. > I bet that puppy is more money, but well worth it. > George > > > > Shawn Mitchell wrote: > > > http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwb/rwb-mcpe.htm > > You test that unit any? It's a full outdoor CPE cheaper than SB's > > airBridge... and it also is a lot more sensitive than the airBridge... > > 11meg at -91dBm, 1 meg at -96dBm Also supports rate limiting on the > > unit, PoE, and a few others things... > > Has something I really wish the airBrige had... a web based > > management. I don't like installing software on my PC, or the > > customers PC. I like Linux running on my laptop... allows me to do > > MUCH more... > > Anyone here have any experience with their products that can give a > > good full review on them? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Ray > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 13:32 > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Subject:* Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > You can also look at the Reliawave units at www.demarctech.com > > <http://www.demarctech.com> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:47 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > You are preaching to the chior on those points.... Trust me, > > I've known of SB longer than most anyone here. I helped (it > > can easily be argued) get the off and running, certainly in > > the wisp market. > > I use a ton of sb gear and may well have outspent you too. > > We're seeing trouble too. I've warned the owner of SB for at > > least a couple of months now that this problem has to go away > > NOW. It's costing customers. And in my market there aren't > > that many to start with!. > > The alternative to an abo total though is a $400 to $500 > > Zcomax or Telex unit (the telex ones seem very nice if my pre > > production unit is any indication!). At some point we'll have > > to decide if the warranty work or up front costs is a greater > > cost to us. > > I certainly don't expect low end pricing to be equal to high > > end gear.... Much as I'd like to have both ;-). > > Course, I've been in this game long enough to have purchased > > indoor bridges at $1400 each! Even $500 for a complete kit > > sounds good ;-). > > marlon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Blazen Wireless <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:07 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > Marlon, > > Please if you look at the history we had GREAT WORKING > > units coming form SB then all of a sudden WHAM it went > > into the TANK WHY? nothing changed on our ends yet SB > > claimed nothing was wrong then LOW AND BEHOLD OHH GEE a > > chip problem we overlooked! get the picture? Now they > > claim the problems are fixed but the true diahards are > > seeing otherwise since we use 100% SB product you bet your > > ass I am going to bitch I have sunk well over $15K in SB > > product from various vendors I have that right to bitch > > when something does not work and it was before all this > > whole thing... > > > > *From:* Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:55 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > It's an amazing thing isn't it. We buy very nice > > devices at below market rates and then have the guts > > to get made when they don't perform better than > > anything else we've ever run! lol > > If only we didn't have to compete against cable and > > dsl companies that have the money to buy customers.... > > marlon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* The Wirefree Network > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:39 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > Of course they work out of the box. The firmware > > upgrade was not to enable the device. It was to > > correct the “timing” issue which was causing > > disassociation (heat related). So…it will work out > > of the box. It just may crash soon after….that is > > why the sticker says upgrade. > > > > With that said, I had the same problems with my > > units. They initially started flashing all the > > lights. Wooohoo…all my clients are coming online. > > Within 5 minutes, the blue light stopped and soon > > there after the LAN side locked up as well. Bad > > units….RMA them. > > > > But hey…I am not on sB’s payroll…and I don’t > > approve the RMA’s…so don’t listen to me. I have > > just spent enough time playing with these units. > > Prior to June…you plugged them in and they just > > worked. BAMMM! > > > > Sully > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf > > Of *Shawn Mitchell > > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:16 PM > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > Nish, > > > > My point is that they would work out of the box > > WITH OUT upgrading them. The units both had blue > > flashing lights, but one of them didn't after they > > had been running sitting in the sun for several hours. > > > > Yes, the Ethernet was working great.. I was > > connected to it via simpleMonitor watching the RF > > (wireless) counters... all sitting at 0... I'm > > trying to tell you that you have have solved some > > of the heat issues, but not all of them. Your > > still sending out bad units and telling people to > > put a bandaid on them. Intel tried the same thing > > with their old Pentium 60Mhz CPU's years back, and > > in the end they switched them out with good ones. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of *Nish Park > > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 21:54 > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > Shawn, > > > > I read the email a few times and watched the > > movie also. I am not sure what point you are > > trying to make. As the label says, you need to > > upgrade the F/W before it will work properly. > > There are no units with “bad” chips in them. > > The thermal issue can be solved by either the > > new hardware or the new firmware. > > > > (ps. After the firmware upgrade you may want > > to associate a client to check the operation. > > In the movie it looks like you may have a unit > > with bad Blue LED. Ethernet LED is flashing as > > per normal so it looks like the units is > > working ok but for some reason the Blue LED > > may have come off the solder joint). > > > > Nish > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > Behalf Of *Shawn Mitchell > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:20 AM > > *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's! > > > > I'm resizing the images and stuff right now... > > I'll have them put up pretty soon, but you'll > > see my point exactly on what I've been dealing > > with over the last few months. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of *Chris Chance > > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 18:38 > > *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New > > APPO's! > > > > How the hell... whats that bug u speak of > > sounds kinda funny since u said u passed > > traffic > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shawn Mitchell > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:05 PM > > To: smartBridges > > > > And they have bad chips in them! > > > > The white sticker on the box say's "Before > > these will work correctly, you > > must upgrade them"... So I think to > > myself, "Smartbridges said they pulled > > back all the ones they still had with bad > > chips, so these must not have any > > heat issues... right.." WRONG! > > > > Here's a nice little 30 second movie: > > http://www.iodamedia.net/new-appo.avi > > > > One on the bottom is running the .8 code, > > one on top is running the code it > > came with, .5 > > > > Now, they got deliverd at around 12:30pm > > CDT. I wasn't there, called them > > on the phone and told them to sit them > > outside in the sun, plugged in just > > for grins. > > > > This day (yesterday) happen to be breaking > > record temps all over the place. > > It showed 102*F on the temp readout on my > > jeep. These units were warm, but > > not hot to the touch. "burnning" to the > > human touch is around 50*C (122*F). > > MUCH lower than what the units are rated at. > > > > But anyway, you can very plainly see that > > on the bottom unit, it's working > > just as normal (RFtxrx light blinks), but > > on the top one... it's totaly off. > > DEAD... > > > > well, I didn't replace the two AP's that I > > needed to replace still. I > > tested them today.. I'm going to put up > > the screen shots from it.. it's > > quite funny, and let's just say I found a > > few FW bugs in the airBridge, or > > else SB you make good enough of a radio > > that it connected to an AP 5 miles > > away, through/around a large hill, and > > through 20+ multistory brick > > buildings (with a RSSI of -20 something > > and a LQ of 90%+ and passing traffic > > for a while) > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
