Take a look at the MasterSwitch by it's self. I think it does every thing you want without the UPS
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Rebooters Geeesshhh Tom...you have really been working your butt off to help people round here lately! That solution you found, although effective, is just WAY too expensive. See, you have to understand....I want my cake and eat it to! First of all, baytech seems to make APC clones and are much cheaper (especially on ebay). So..that is where I focused for a while. But...it is really hard to piece meal it all together..and it adds up quick. Not as quickly as it adds up with the APC though. For those of you who are interested, I have found a solution (minus the WEB based interface) for about $400.00. It is self repairing. One of the units takes advantage of a heartbeat to reboot itself if hung. That unit I will use on my server. Then it is always up. The server is running the IPCheck software which will ping my aPPo's and routers. If any of them hang, then the IPCheck software issues ASCII commands out the serial port to reboot the associated port. That makes it totally self-repairing. Then I added a telephone rebooter for backup that works on dial tone inputs. My package as configured is for only 3 power supplies (server, router and one aPPo), and as I said before does not include the web based support. If I expand my package to include the web based and 5 more power supplies, then the cost will be around $600.00 total. The company I designed this with is working on a better all-in-one solution...but it will take some time. They are also developing a unit for me this week that will have either RJ-45 ro RJ-11 style connectors for input and output. These could be used inline with the POE units and are capable of supporting 2 aPPos per box. I want to also call BayTech on Monday to see if they have anything that will work (besides what I already figured out from their website). Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Haynes Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Rebooters Here are the parts and the APC website price: APC Smart-UPS 1000VA USB & Serial 120V - $459 Network Management Card w/ Environmental Monitoring & Out of Band Management AP9618 - $489 MasterSwitch plus exp, 1U, 15A, 120V, (8)5-15 AP9225EXP - $449 Docs can be found here http://www.apc.com/products/configure/index.cfm?base_sku=SUA1000&full_sk u=SU A1000&totalwatts=50 This is a serious unit with more features than you may be looking for. Since I am no APC guru, you will need to call them to see if I got it right. Features: Enviornmental monitoring External input/output via relay and contact inputs Network interface - Web, Telnet, SNMP, etc... Out-of-band interface - built in modem Serial interface - console connection 6 onboard (UPS) outlets 8 offboard (masterSwitch) individualy controlable outlets Per outlet power metering Aggreget power metering Each part has it's own programmable watchdog Shutdown scripting Email notification Power quality recording Esclating fault reporting More and more and more... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [smartBridges] Remote Power Rebooters Coincidentally, I have spent over 20 hours out of the past 28 hours researching remote power rebooters. I MUST have them! Let me tell you what I would LOVE to have: An all-inclusive unit that contains 4-8 outlets (preferably powered by one power cord). Before I go further, take a look at these to get an idea of what I am looking for: http://www.baytech.net/cgi-private/product?catagory=DS-RPC+SERIES That unit is almost there. Then there is this one: http://www.baytech.net/cgi-private/product?product=RPC3-15 Okay...continuing on with MY needs. I would LOVE to have a power control unit that has the ability to assign a PING address to each outlet. The power control unit would PING the associated IP at specified intervals. When the unit becomes unresponsive, it reboots. Simple as that. Some of these RPC (remote power controllers) are close...but don't quite cut it. On top of this AUTO reboot ability (with PING), I want both LAN (web) interface and dial-in interface (in case the LAN side was down). I don't think I am asking for too much...considering all of these products have the ability...just not all in one box. I don't think?!?? So...I just keep trudging through the jungle we call the Internet. Here are some more runner-UPS (no pun attended). http://www.usacommunications.com/supp/tb-450.html http://www.cpscom.com/reboot.htm http://www.dataprobe.com/share/4pk415.html http://www.remotepowerswitch.com/ <-- very cheap I need these in place and working by Wednesday evening. I also have some decent software that will do the IP pings and when something is down will execute an .exe or .bat or even initiate a serial communications (rs-232). http://www.paessler.com/ipcheck/features So...now that it seems everyone is in the "giving mood"...maybe we could all put our minds to this and find an "all inclusive" solution. BTW...I have a close acquaintance (owner of one of the above companies) who is willing to build the "all inclusive" device if one, there is no such device, and two, we will buy it. What do you all think. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Haynes Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem Also check out the APC smartUPS line. You can put a IP interface on them and controll each outlet individualy as well as add enviornmental onitoring to it. ~$600 will give you enviornmental monitoring, web based management and monitoring, 4 ports and fair amount of reserve power and you can schedule events as well as respond to internal and external triggers. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Vester Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem That looks like a neat device, never seen anything like that. It might help out until we can figure out why the APPOs keep losing their Ethernet port. But I would have to have one on each APPO, so that's 4 of them at $275 each, just to be able to reboot equipment that won't stay up. I do appreciate the information, though, I am sure it will be very useful and might be a temporary way of controlling these things. Thanks, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry at Mutual Data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re[2]: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem > Hello Gloria, > > http://www.dataprobe.com/power/iboot.html They work like champs. > Also you should have a cat 5 run to the ground for access at the site > to the equipment in the box. > > > > Barry > > Saturday, August 23, 2003, 2:39:56 PM, you wrote: > > GV> Marlon, > GV> My AC runs up the water tower from a breaker at the base of the tower. There is an AC outlet in my NEMA box with the UPS plugged into it, a power strip into that, with all the power supplies and > GV> the D-Link switch plugged into that. All the cat-5 is outdoor rated, shielded and gel filled, all cables tested with a cable tester after being built up on the tower. As for lightning > GV> arrestors, we haven't had any sign of lightning or a drop of rain in months - this is north Texas where rain doesn't exist from June until October. I don't see how I would run a power cord down > GV> the tower, it just doesn't seem possible. We can try moving the cat-5 cables around to different ports on the switch to see if it is one port on the switch that is failing, but since we have had > GV> two different units fail now with the same exact problem and they are on different ports, I don't think that would tell us much. > > GV> Any more ideas - I am always willing to listen and try different things, > GV> Gloria > GV> ----- Original Message ----- > GV> From: Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) > GV> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GV> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 1:00 PM > GV> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem > > > GV> First off, run a power cord to the bottom of the tower for a bit so you can just unplug it to reset everything ;-). > > GV> If multiple units are seeing failed eithernet ports you might need to look at your switch. Also, might want to make sure you have good lighting arrestors on the cat 5 ports. > > GV> In almost 4 years of this wisp stuff I've only lost a couple of ethernet ports and both of those were at the same place and on the same linksys cable router. > > GV> Until this fall. We lost two sb radios with dead ethernet ports durning a storm. One ap and one client. At one location the homeowner also lost the ethernet port in the dell computer. At > GV> another location all radios are fine but the customer lost a nic in a dell computer. > > GV> I'm thinking that there may be some crappy ethernet ports on the market? > > GV> marlon > > GV> ----- Original Message ----- > GV> From: Gloria Vester > GV> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GV> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:50 AM > GV> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem > > > GV> Marlon, > GV> I don't have any spares here. The only extras I have are the one we took down night before last that we thought was bad, and an indoor that was sent to me instead of an outdoor. > > GV> We replaced the POE with a known good one on Wednesday night, we replaced the radio itself Thursday night, and replaced the power supply last night. So far it is up, but it usually takes > GV> about 24 hours for it to go down. > > GV> Now a different one is down - same problem - dead Ethernet side, can't talk to it. This is the first time this one has gone down since we put them up three or four weeks ago. > > GV> If you have any more ideas, let me know. I am willing to try anything at this point, if my techs don't quit because they are sick and tired of climbing the water tower every night to either > GV> reset something or replace something. > > GV> Thanks for your help, > GV> Gloria > > GV> ----- Original Message ----- > GV> From: Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) > GV> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GV> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GV> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:24 AM > GV> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem > > > GV> You have other ones there right? > > GV> First, swap ethernet ports on the switch. Swap power supplies and then power injectors (I just had a bad power shot) with a known good working unit. > > GV> If none of that works, swap the ap with a known good working unit. If the problem moves, yep, really bad luck! If the problem stays with another radio, it's environmental. > > GV> I know when we first got started we were on one end of a 30 mile ptp wmux link. It would totally shut down my radio. Similar to what you are seeing. > > GV> Call me and let me know what you find or if you'd like to talk about this a bit more. > > GV> *Time to learn those trouble-shooting techniques ;-)* > > GV> marlon > GV> 509.988.0260 cell > GV> ----- Original Message ----- > GV> From: Gloria Vester > GV> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GV> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:30 PM > GV> Subject: [smartBridges] help with APPO problem > > > GV> Anyone got suggestions as to what is causing one of my APPOs to go down? We have had to climb the water tower and reset it three times in the last week. We replaced the POE on Wednesday > GV> and it went down again Thursday. I ordered a new unit overnighted and replaced the unit last night. It worked great all day today, but is down again now. The outdoor rated cat-5 run is only > GV> about 20 feet, the cable was tested with a cable tester before putting it in place, everything is water proofed (even though we haven't had rain in months). What else is there? The POE was > GV> replaced, the entire unit was replaced, and we still have the same exact problem. When it does this, the Ethernet LED is off, the Power and TXRX LED is on solid, and we have no communication > GV> with it. Did I get so lucky as to get two bad units with the same exact problem? The only item that has not been replaced is the power supply - could that be bad? All the other units on the > GV> water tower are working fine since I upgraded the firmware last Sunday. They are all plugged into the same switch, which is plugged into a UPS and all of it is in an air conditioned NEMA box. > > GV> smartBridges tech - or anyone - help! > GV> Thanks! > GV> Gloria > > > > -- > Best regards, > Barry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
