Thanks - I will try that.  I am going to fill out the other three right now.
The one I did already I didn't put an invoice number and it wouldn't let me
submit it without all fields filled in.  I guess I can put all zeroes on
everything.

Thanks for your help,
Gloria

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO problems


> Gloria all I did was fill in the basics I didn't put mac address but put
all
> zeros instead just fill out the important stuff like name and mailing
> address. I did this with several bad ABO units a while back and that was
all
> they requested..
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO problems
>
>
> I will have to remember to send a camera up the water tower with my tech
the
> next time he goes up to reset one (or more) of them, which will probably
be
> in the next 12 - 24 hours.  The only one we have that is different is the
> only one working and it is on the water tower.  I don't have any spares -
> the only one I have that is not installed is the one I pulled down
Thursday
> night that was locking up.
>
> I am appreciative of the support smartBridges seems to be giving me - and
> allowing me to RMA directly to them, but I haven't had time today to fill
> out four RMA forms with all the questions about what testing I have or
> haven't done, the invoice number (which I have to go back through
paperwork
> to find), etc., etc.  Why can't they just send us advance replacements for
> the bad ones then we can do the paperwork after we take the bad ones out
of
> service?
>
> Sorry, I really don't like to bitch and complain, it is a waste of energy.
> But I am fighting a battle here and seem to be losing..........
>
> Thanks to all for your help and support,
> Gloria
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO problems
>
>
> > Can you send a picture of what the BIG LED VS the SMALL LED looks like I
> > will have to look at mine now to see what's up. I bet you there was no
two
> > different lines but instead two different facilities all together making
> > these units for them and one facility screwed the pooch trying to be
cheap
> > and make more money by using a lower grade chip.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO problems
> >
> >
> > Well, I have no doubt now, in my mind at least, that the problem is the
> > smartBridges equipment now.  Just got back from the water tower to reset
> the
> > one that was down, the one we replaced Thursday night with a new unit.
We
> > had to repower it 8 times before it would come back up.  The power would
> > come on, the Ethernet LED would come on solid, but the TXRX LED would
not
> > come on at all.  After 8 times of resetting the power it finally came
back
> > up.  Another reason I am sure now that it is the airPoints - I just
> realized
> > that I have one unit, out of five, that has not locked up (yet).  And my
> > techs told me that it physically looks different from the other ones -
> they
> > said the LEDs are a little bigger and brighter - could this mean that it
> was
> > from a different manufacturing lot than the other ones?  Sounds like it
to
> > me.  I am not bashing smartBridges, but I do think I got some bad units.
> I
> > am going to RMA all but the one that hasn't locked up and hope the
> > replacements come in before I lose the few customers I have.  In the
mean
> > time we will be climbing the water tower at least once a day to reset
them
> > until the replacements get here.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] SH!T is hitting the FAN!!
> >
> >
> > That is definitely one to throw into my bag-o-knowledge!  Thanks.
> >
> > Ya...that aint the issue here though.  Some of these units are indoors,
> > some are in NEMA enclosures, some are outdoors.
> >
> > I have such a wide range of everything, and have tried EVERYTHING, that
> > I am left with only one conclusion.
> >
> > Bad sB stuff.
> >
> > I will be replacing it all this week.  Will keep you posted.
> >
> > Sully
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:27 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] SH!T is hitting the FAN!!
> >
> >  I had a similar problem, ended up I did a shitty job os sealing the
> > connector(beer was involved)but it was like clock work the sun would
> > come up
> > APPO would go down for about an hour untill the moisture was dried out
> > by
> > the sun. Don't sound like your problem though, but hopes this helps
> > some.
> >   Joe
> > RiverNet
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:03 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] SH!T is hitting the FAN!!
> >
> >
> > Are you sure you don't have an interference problem? We had an ABO that
> > would lose association once or twice per day, even with the new
> > firmware.
> > I went out there, replaced and re-aimed the antenna, replaced the
> > LMR-400
> > jumper, and it was been solid ever since then.
> >
> > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, The Wirefree Network wrote:
> >
> > > Damn it!  This is getting ridiculous.  I know that sB has been very
> > > responsive.and has also sent me directly a bunch of new units (which
> > > should be here Monday or Tuesday), but DAMN IT!
> > >
> > > At approximately 9:45 am my head-end unit went down taking everyone
> > with
> > > it.  I received a page, and was able to do a manual power reset on it
> > > within a few minutes (it was not responding to anything on the
> > Ethernet
> > > or Wireless side).  This brought it back online and all the clients as
> > > well (except a couple of troubled airBridge units with crappy chips in
> > > them).   Then 5 minutes later, four client airBridge units lost
> > > association never to regain it.  I had to call the clients and have
> > them
> > > do a manual power reset to get them back online.
> > >
> > > OF SPECIAL NOTE: My new airPoint (indoor) which I am using at a
> > client's
> > > house in CB mode has also lost association.  I used the aPi because I
> > > thought it had not been affected by the "crappy chip syndrome".
> > But.it
> > > is down.  It went down within minutes of the others.
> > >
> > > Okay.I will try to make this short.I have been going back and forth
> > with
> > > this for 50 minutes now.  The head-end keeps going down every few
> > > minutes.  At first the clients will start dropping off the associated
> > > list then it just craps out all together.  I have now unplugged it for
> > > 10 minutes hoping that when I plug it back in, it will stay up.  I am
> > > sure all my clients are BITCHING at me right now!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > The client units are dropping like flies.  I have 18 airBridge units
> > > deployed from the June batch.  Of them, 12 have lost association in
> > the
> > > past 1 hour.  I guess the other 6 must have received the good chips on
> > > the other production line (no joke).
> > >
> > > Oh.I guess I should tell you this.  It is a SCORCHER here in Monterey.
> > > Not!!!!
> > > 74�F
> > > Fair Feels Like 74�F
> > > UV Index: 4 Low
> > > Dew Point: 59�F
> > > Humidity: 59%
> > > Visibility: Unlimited
> > > Pressure: 29.98 inches and steady
> > > Wind: From the East Southeast at 6 mph
> > >
> > > >From 0945 to 1045 every day is a scary time for me.  It is not the
> > > hottest part of the day, but it is the time when all my units become
> > > FLAKY!  It was around 63 last night and when the morning sun hits
> > these
> > > units all of a sudden.and the temperature starts rising quickly.then
> > the
> > > units lose association.  It is not that they are HOT.cause they are
> > not.
> > > It is the temperature change that does it.  I just jumped up on the
> > roof
> > > and felt my head-end..it is just warm.
> > >
> > > If the units I receive on Monday-Tuesday don't fix this problem.I am
> > > done.  Truly done with sB.  No self-respecting business man many would
> > > put loyalty to a supplier over the existence of his own company.  If
> > > they do.they are sure to die.
> > >
> > > PLEASE DON'T ANYONE EVEN TRY TO TELL ME HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT THIS
> > > PROBLEM.  IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM!!!!
> > >
> > > Sully
> > >
> > > p.s.  The 10 minute "cooling down period" has allowed everyone to
> > > reassociate and stay online for 5 minutes now.  Except the "crappy
> > chip"
> > > airBridge units and the newly installed airPoint indoor.
> > >
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