Well all I know is that when I change the max speed to 1 or 2 meg things are
much better now with my customers that are beyond 5 miles It seems that if
my close users are access the AP at I am guessing at 11 megs it just screws
up the far clients in a sense their throughput is slow and the pings are
over 200-300ms! and the people close by are not really doing any downloading
on avg maybe 200-300kbps when the problems happen. I have bandwidth control
on the users to control throughput and that helps to control how fast they
go but still I see the same problems if I set the AP to 11, 5.5, 2 and 1 meg
auto step-down, it seems like that it cant step down quick enough for the
users that can only negotiate at 1 -2 megs?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems


Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just _MAY_
slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person.  Hope
that makes sense.

Scott
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Network
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM
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Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems


Huh!??!?  This seems bass ackwards.  If one client associates at 1 Meg,
it drops everyone down to that speed.  Not the other way around.
Weakest link theory.  If a client can not associate at 11 Meg and steps
it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to connect at 11 Meg.
However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could be stepped down
to 1 Meg based on some far out client.

Sully

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems

I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in my
opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they are
only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have throughput
problems, if I have all my close customers able to associate at 11 megs
(5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the
further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but will be
forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link they
will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless I
could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the AP.
In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at different
speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the slowest radio or the
fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Vasu (sB Tech Team)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems

That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire bandwidth
the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence bandwidth
throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to all users, I
think the XO series access point should solve your problem which can
provide dedicated bandwidth to every user.

Vasu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems

Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems
that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the APPO at
5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away are at 1 meg
max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up the radio and
the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a better link / speed
quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in my theory does that
make any sense?

So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer to
the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I cant
verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't report
what speed they are associated at? Can someone think of a way to
validate this theory??

Thanks

Martin & Steve
Blazen Wireless
www.blazenwireless.com


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