Don't you mean the 1 meg user steps the radio down to 1 meg not 11??? My users who are having the problem really don't download that much its just they get hosed when other users are on and negotiated the radio at 11 meg for some reason it wont step down to 1 meg when its already at 11 meg. You cant expect a stable clean link at 11 meg to a customer who is only capable due to distance of getting 1 meg and you will run into this same problem I am having. I think this is what is going on but like you said I can be sure unless I could tell what speed the users are negotiated to the AP at.
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems Yup...I agree. While the "1 Meg" client is communicating, all other users drop to 11 Meg. There is a slight delay time for the aP to step back up though. So...if the "1 Meg" client is a moderate to heavy user, he is really dragging the whole network down with him. This is why WE NEED the ability to see which clients are doing this. At the install, I would love to have the ability to use simpleMonitor and a special "INSTALL" tab that allows me to do some very quick testing. Basically, I would like for it to ascertain the fastest throughput that this specific client can get. That would tell me whether or not a client can even associate at 11 Meg. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Damron Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just _MAY_ slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person. Hope that makes sense. Scott -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems Huh!??!? This seems bass ackwards. If one client associates at 1 Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed. Not the other way around. Weakest link theory. If a client can not associate at 11 Meg and steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to connect at 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could be stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in my opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to associate at 11 megs (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but will be forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link they will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless I could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the AP. In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at different speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the slowest radio or the fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think? ----- Original Message ----- From: Vasu (sB Tech Team) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire bandwidth the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user. Vasu -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the APPO at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away are at 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up the radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a better link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in my theory does that make any sense? So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer to the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't report what speed they are associated at? Can someone think of a way to validate this theory?? 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