quick survey....

How many of us have actually read the 802.11b spec?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems


> Well all I know is that when I change the max speed to 1 or 2 meg things
are
> much better now with my customers that are beyond 5 miles It seems that if
> my close users are access the AP at I am guessing at 11 megs it just
screws
> up the far clients in a sense their throughput is slow and the pings are
> over 200-300ms! and the people close by are not really doing any
downloading
> on avg maybe 200-300kbps when the problems happen. I have bandwidth
control
> on the users to control throughput and that helps to control how fast they
> go but still I see the same problems if I set the AP to 11, 5.5, 2 and 1
meg
> auto step-down, it seems like that it cant step down quick enough for the
> users that can only negotiate at 1 -2 megs?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
>
> Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just _MAY_
> slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person.  Hope
> that makes sense.
>
> Scott
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM
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>
> Huh!??!?  This seems bass ackwards.  If one client associates at 1 Meg,
> it drops everyone down to that speed.  Not the other way around.
> Weakest link theory.  If a client can not associate at 11 Meg and steps
> it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to connect at 11 Meg.
> However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could be stepped down
> to 1 Meg based on some far out client.
>
> Sully
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
> I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in my
> opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they are
> only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have throughput
> problems, if I have all my close customers able to associate at 11 megs
> (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the
> further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but will be
> forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link they
> will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless I
> could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the AP.
> In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at different
> speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the slowest radio or the
> fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Vasu (sB Tech Team)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
> That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire bandwidth
> the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence bandwidth
> throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to all users, I
> think the XO series access point should solve your problem which can
> provide dedicated bandwidth to every user.
>
> Vasu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
> Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems
> that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the APPO at
> 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away are at 1 meg
> max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up the radio and
> the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a better link / speed
> quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in my theory does that
> make any sense?
>
> So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer to
> the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I cant
> verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't report
> what speed they are associated at? Can someone think of a way to
> validate this theory??
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin & Steve
> Blazen Wireless
> www.blazenwireless.com
>
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