I'll take a picture of what we did.  Use the Hardened 350 (or now you 
have to go with the hardened 1200).  -20 deg F to 150 deg F, 95% humidity 
version.  Put it in a NEMA box for Rain protection, and walla, you can 
take it up a tower.  Its POE capable so power not an issue either...

And these boxes are now about $650 each (I get them actually for about 
$550, but only because I have my sources, and a buddy deal from a VERY 
large distributor), which makes them competitive to other solutions, and 
it has the ability for radio expansion (made for upgrade for 802.11g, but 
also future standard radios, OR (my hope) a second radio) and with two 
antenna connectors, quite plausible!

Only negative I have found is Certified Antenna limitations, and 100 mW 
radio (which still is better then the 60 mW that SB has in the APPO).  
But the management, etc capabilities and VLAN/port blocking capabilities 
have been a God send (alonmg with Repeater and Back-up modes...)

Scott

Send pics of the NEMA box install if anybody interested.  One box has 
been through and survived two NEAR lightning strikes (Once a hit 
obliterated my Trango gear on the same tower less than three feet away.  
Caused the Cisco to go off-line, but all it took was a new Power Injector 
on the Cisco, and she came back up like a champ. Been working good for 2 
months after that...

SSH is nice for CLI as well..

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: "Breiland, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:57:03 -0600 
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Riddle me this...

> The XO products I believe are suppose to have some "hot standby(as
> Cisco
> refers to it)" capabilities.  When inter mixing vendor's gear that does
> not
> help though.  More of an FYI reply to the glad I got Cisco comment as
> opposed to a solution to the bridge loop problem.  I would have
> probably
> used Cisco as well but they did not have an outdoor solution to
> eliminate
> feet and feet of coax dB loss up a 160' tower.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Riddle me this...
> 
> No that this is too late for your deployment, but Cisco actually has a 
> Back-up radio capability that prevents this.  I.e. the two radios talk,
> and if the back-up for what ever reason can not talk to the primary 
> radio, it goes into operation automagicly..  Have I said before I am
> glad 
> I went Cisco?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:24:49 -0000
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Riddle me this...
> 
> > Airbridges don't announce routes tho? A router does that - all
> > 'bridges'
> > operate on layer 2 - They hold MAC Address tables of connected
> devices
> > only.
> > If you have two bridges operating, you may encounter bridging loops
> > where
> > one sends the frame, the other sends it back and so on ad infinitum.
> > 
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk621/technologies_tech_note09186
> > a0080
> > 1c137e.shtml
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Kosick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:46 PM
> > Subject: [smartBridges] Riddle me this...
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm running another brand bridge as a primary backhaul (Airaya).
> > > I installed the SB's as a backup but the thing is, I need to let
> one
> > of
> > the
> > > twp SB units remained powered on (the one at the tower). This way,
> if
> > the
> > > main backhaul dies, I can power on the SB on the ground and reach
> the
> > lit
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Problem is...  with two bridges running, its causing Ethernet
> > interference.
> > > More than likely the airPoint is announcing a route back to the
> > powered-down
> > > airBridge and creating two paths back to the NOC.
> > >
> > > If I unplug the airPoint from the ethernet, all is good again.
> > >
> > > Any way to have the airPoint stop this?
> > > Or maybe the move is to swap the units so that the airPoint is at
> the
> > NOC
> > on
> > > the ground and the airBridge is on the tower?
> > > ===
> > > Rick Kosick
> > > StarLinX Internet Service
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