, they WANT the extra speed but do not want to pay for it, which is nothing new :)
On That is just so true and the root of the problem, Nobody wants to pay.
Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202
http://www.demarctech.com
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geo_p15sb Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
WRONG..
If I had to sit at a p2-500 I'd shoot myself first. These applications have grown to eat all the power they can get out of the latest round of procs.
My p4-2.53 is nice to work with, my p3-500 is laggy my amd k2 400 drove me nuts.
Faster is better.
Always.
George
Demarc wrote:
Agree 100% for the most part this is also true for computer processing speed most end users do not NEED anything over 500Mhz PII to do there every day computing but they still by the latest greatest even thought the actual benefits are very little.
On a plus note, once the next get equipment is out (soon) it will make for a equal playing field where 30Mb per cell is reachable.
Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202
http://www.demarctech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
3MB internet for $99 is about like the AOL 1,000 hours free in the first
month. There is not 1,000 hours in a month and most users will run out of data before they ever hit 3 MB sustained. Marketing types know people tend to go for the high numbers and probably will never use it.
Rick Kosick wrote:
Hi Colin.
The problem is basically that I only service one office park of about 100 businesses.
I only have 12 customers there now (on wireless, anyway). I admit
I got a little lazy and didn't market there like I should have. Recently Comcast came in and wired the complex. Now I am cutting my prices to $75.00/month for small office and $125.00 for large office and NOBODY is replying.
These people can't get DSL, and can't evem get cable yet but Comcast surveyed the area and got them interested. So, I'm cheaper and better (not faster) and they still go with them.
I also pondered doing a 10Mbps link for the same pricing as Comcast and when I spoke to people about it, they just want Comcast.
I pictched an office complex of 120 offices DYING for Internet Access. No DSL, no Cable.
Comcast caught wind that this problem existed and tried to run
lines. The association told them they wanted 10k in escrow to make sure no damage was done. Comcast said no.
So, the customers sat for 18 months with nothing. No hope of Comcast, and no DSL options.
I went it... do digging, installed within 2 weeks, $99.00/month.
Comcast caught wind of this... came back and offered the complex $5000k escrow. They took it. I signed up 3 customers and 1 of them told them that they would likely only use me until they got their
cable installed. The rest never responded. $95/month, 3.5Mbps. Do the math. And, they could double this at any time (speed, not price).
Comcast is doubling their residential speeds from 1.5 to 3Mbps on Dec 1.
Compete with that.
They're smart. They know 3Mbps is impossible to get in any other economical format. DSL is not gonna do that (under realistic
conditions) and T1 isn't either. Diabolical!
I used to have about 100 customers on wireless but I opt'd to swap out all the radio equipment for burried Cat5(it is a complex). Almost all of them were concerned that "when it rains or the wind is blowing, doesn't it go out?". This is directly related to Comcast's commercials regarding the dish. :-(
I don't even tell people its wireless. I call it wDSL, or Wireless DSL if they ask.
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Watson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
How badly are u suffering? Why can't you compete?
----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Kosick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
Nope, wasn't me who called. I started out with Breezecom about
3 years ago and remained pretty small. I'm taking it in the
backside now with Comcast here giving it all away for free.
Scumbags.
Wouldn't it be so nice to have that monopoly? Run wires to
every home and then call it a private network so nobody else
has access to the wire. Funny, 230' of their cable runs across
my lawn and I don't see any rent money for that "private
network". What a waste the FCC is.
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
----- Original Message ----- From: Sevak Avakians <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
Hi Rick,
I'm in NYC. Yeah, both our areas (NY & PA) were hit bad yesterday!
PA? There was a guy in PA that wanted to setup a WISP and had called me for tips awhile back...that wasn't you, right? If I remember correctly, his name was also Rick.
Sevak
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 11:02, Rick Kosick wrote:
No luck. I downgraded to lower firmware and nothing.
I am going to try and reset it by using the button on
PowerShot and trying from scratch. Otherwise, I have to
dump the equipment and move to something else. Way too
much time spent on this what-should-be-simple setup. It
did work for about 5 mins until I tried enabling WEP.
Ever since though, nothing.
Where are you located that you have 55MPH wind? I'm in PA
and have the same problem. Trees down everywhere :-(
Where can I get 1.4j.9? Maybe that will do it?
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
----- Original Message ----- From: Sevak Avakians <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
Hi Rick,
Turns out that I'm also having problems getting 2 aPPOT units to bridge. At first, I was having trouble with one of the appot to broadcast it's ssid. The other appot did not take up the ssid changes I made to it. Whenever sniffing wirelessly, its ssid appeared as airPointProOutdoorTOTAL. After re-flashing the rom, rebooting, and switching from wireless bridge mode to client bridge mode then back to wireless bridge mode, the ssid appears properly on the second unit. (Note, that the ssid as seen from the monitor program would always appear as the correct one. It was only from looking at the wireless broadcast that I could see that the ssid was incorrect.)
Well, anyway it is way too windy here today for me to continue (55 mph winds!), so I'll take another look at it tomorrow.
Any luck with your setup???
Sevak
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 09:19, Rick Kosick wrote:
Software: 1.6
Firmware: 1.4j.8
Both sides.
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
----- Original Message ----- From: Sevak Avakians <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
Rick, if you got the firmware off the website, it may not be the latest. Usually sb has a beta version that they post on this list and most of us use before it is posted to the website.
Check the version number using simpleNMS or the firmware upgrade utility.
Sevak
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 09:05, Rick Kosick wrote:
I don't know the actual version number but I
just downloaded it off the website in the past
few days and it is the very latest on both
sides.
This part about it bringing the switch to its
knees is VERY disturbing because a switch, by
its design, should not allow that to happen
normally. I can see it happening to a hub.
I was working on this remotely (from home) at
late hours both times and had to drive to the
NOC to remedy it because I couldn't access any
machines via PC Anywhere. The whole network
crashed basically.
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
----- Original Message ----- From: Blazen Wireless <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
Interesting what firmware were you using
which should not affect your switch like
that just curious to know..
----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Kosick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:39 AM Subject: [smartBridges] Why not to use smartBridge...
So far I've come up with three good
reasons to not continue to use
smartBridges but I'm open to
suggestions for fixing these problem.
Pardon my frustration but I have 3
years of wireless experience and its
taking me more than 10 hours of
fiddling to get a simple Wireless
Bridge to Wireless Bridge up and
running and I am sitting here with more
problems than solutions right now.
1) Last week I plugged the ethernet
side of an APPO into an APCC PNET4
ethernet surge supressor where there
where three other devices plugged in.
This caused severe packet loss on the
other devices. Pinging the other
devices between each other would result
in 4 out of 10 pings timeing out.
SOLUTION: Bypass the ethernet surge
supressor.
2) Right now I have two APPO's
configured in Wireless Bridge mode
(which won't work, see #3). At my NOC
side its plugged into a D-Link DES3226
Managed Switch. If I put the APPO into
Access Point mode, it KILLS the traffic
on my switch entirely to the point
where workstations and servers can
barely reach each other. As soon as I
unplug the APPO's ethernet connection
from the switch, immediately everything
goes back to normal. This has happened
twice now in my quest to get my
wireless link working.
SOLUTION: No idea. Maybe avoid
Access Point mode?
3) I have to admit I did enjoy 3
minutes of Wireless Bridge mode where
everything worked as it was expected,
but I got adventerous and enabled WEP.
This did not work out for some reason
and now, after disabling WEP... I
cannot get the Wireless Bridge mode to
work again. I've reset to Defaults and
started over, still nothing. I simply
cannot get Wirless Bridge to Wireless
Bridge mode to work at this point. I've
been through the "recycling both
sides", "double checking MAC#'s", etc.
You'd think that if this was going to
work at all, I would have accidentally
made it work by now.
SOLUTION: None as of yet.
Clearly, when considering points #1 and
#2 above, there is more happening on
the ethernet side of the link than just
ethernet. Something is different than a
standard ethernet connection because
this radio clearly caused major packet
loss between the other devices plugged
into am ethernet surge supressor. Maybe
power is leaking through from the
PowerShot device? And, its ability to
completely bring a managed switch to
its knees just reassures this..
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Rick Kosick
StarLinX Internet Service
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