Maybe I mis-read or didn't read the article close enough. I was commenting
more on what Laurie said than the article itself....

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From: "Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> But, that's not the same thing as genetic engineering.  Crops and even
> animals have been genetically manipulated for eons.  New fruit trees are
> routinely made by genetic splicing.  New breeds of animals are made by
cross
> breeding, stronger and more hardy vegetables by cross pollination.  All of
> this is genetic modification.
>
> Charles Mims
> http://www.the-sandbox.org
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Greg Hopper
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> I don't know, I seem to recall reading a few articles thru the years about
> how our manipulating some things was causeing cancer and such. And crop
> manipulation aside, I would think it would be hard to argue that the
things
> we spray on them and hormones we feed cattle and stuff isn't causeing some
> of that stuff.....
>
> Some crop chemicals were outlawed over the years, specifically because of
> that. I don't pretend to be an expert on this one...but I'm with Laurie,
> seems to me there is more than enough evidense of those things at least.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Harder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:15 AM
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>
> >
> > That is because you have been brainwashed by the Quacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 12:38 AM, Greg Hopper wrote:
> >
> > > I tend to agree....
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Laurie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "The Sandbox Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Maybe this will start something for Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >> I don't know..I think all the things we feed to our
> > >> livestock to make the meat leaner and more
> > >> tender...and to make our crops grow prettier and less
> > >> buggy...all leads us to having cancer later on...
> > >>
> > >> Laurie
> > >> --- Tim Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I personally don't think that genetically modified
> > >>> food  poses a danger
> > >>> to humans.
> > >>> There is absolutely *NO* evidence that it does.  One
> > >>> of the main crops
> > >>> that have
> > >>> been totally transformed for the good are soybeans.
> > >>> They now have
> > >>> soybeans
> > >>> that you can plant (drill) right into the ground and
> > >>> then be sprayed
> > >>> for weeds
> > >>> *after* they have come up.  The soybeans are immune
> > >>> to the spray that
> > >>> kills all
> > >>> other vegetation.  This means that the farmer has
> > >>> way less tilling to
> > >>> do to the
> > >>> field which saves money, fuel, and erosion, which is
> > >>> good for the
> > >>> environment.
> > >>>
> > >>> The fact that Greenpeace is behind this scare tactic
> > >>> should tell you
> > >>> something.
> > >>> People have been manipulating the genetics of crops
> > >>> for centuries....
> > >>> They
> > >>> are just getting really good at it now with the
> > >>> advent of cellular
> > >>> biology.
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as "do countries have the right to keep these
> > >>> crops from their
> > >>> shelves"
> > >>> without violating the WTO....  I have no idear.
> > >>> That is a different
> > >>> kettle of fish.
> > >
> > >
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